Re: [council] RE: [council] RE: [council] RE: [council] Re: Council vote on by-laws (from Stéphane)

July 13, 2009

      Hi Chuck,

Is there a Time limit for people who abstained to respond with a  
reason why they did so?

Thanks,

Stéphane

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Le 13 juil. 2009 à 15:16, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> a  
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Nothing has been communicated to the Board regarding the vote.  As  
Avri communicated in our call last week, each person who abstained  
was to be given an opportunity to confirm that their reason for  
abstaining was recorded accurately.  Glen sent a draft of the action  
on the motion with proposed abstention language to the applicable  
Councilors and we are still waiting for responses.
Chuck
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- 
council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tony Holmes
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:42 AM
To: 'William Drake'
Cc: 'GNSO Council List'
Subject: [council] RE: [council] RE: [council] Re: Council vote on  
by-laws (from Stéphane)
Well, if that’s the case and the Board know everything anyway, then  
why bother to have a vote at all???
But as there was a vote, I would appreciate knowing what if anything  
has happened since.
From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch]
Sent: 13 July 2009 13:22
To: Tony Holmes
Cc: 'GNSO Council List'
Subject: Re: [council] RE: [council] Re: Council vote on by-laws  
(from Stéphane)
Perhaps we should create a drafting team? Or a team to draft a  
charter for a drafting team?  We could be ready to report the vote  
in August...
After all the public pronouncements and back channel communications,  
is there really any chance that the board does not know where the  
constituencies stand on the bylaws?  Why spend time negotiating how  
to package and spoon feed them things they already know?  Why not  
just report the vote per usual and move on?
Bill
On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Tony Holmes wrote:
Does that mean we can all indicate how we would have voted to the  
Board?
Avri - could you provide can update of where we are with this. Have  
you communicated anything at all to the Board regarding this vote yet?
Tony
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- 
council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake
Sent: 13 July 2009 11:56
To: GNSO Council List
Subject: [council] Re: Council vote on by-laws (from Stéphane)
Begin forwarded message:
From: Stephvg2 <stephvg2@gmail.com>
Date: July 13, 2009 12:49:25 PM GMT+02:00
To: William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch>
Cc: Tim Ruiz <tim@godaddy.com>, Avri Doria <avri@psg.com>
Subject: Re: [council] Council vote on by-laws
I agree that Tim's approach is sensible. But if we're aiming for  
maximum transparency, I would also like it be recorded that in my  
message before the meeting stating I would be unable to participate,  
I said I would vote in favor. This may also be useful info for the  
Board.
I'm not sure I can post to the Council list from this, my secondary  
email address, so perhaps one of you would be kind enough to forward  
this message to the Council list.
Thanks,
Stéphane
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Le 13 juil. 2009 à 11:03, William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.c 
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Avri's proposed approach is sensible and would be NCUC's  
preference.  However, if there's overwhelming sentiment that  
differentiated reporting is needed, it would be better to respect  
board members' intelligence and dispense with the transparent  
spinning.  Tim's approach would be preferable in that context.
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Bill
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On Jul 10, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Tim Ruiz wrote:
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Would it be okay to report the vote something like this:
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13 Votes in favor:
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Tim Ruiz (RrC) 2 votes
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Chuck Gomes (RyC) 2 votes
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Avri Doria (NCA) 1 vote
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1 Vote against:
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Cyril Chua (IPC) 1 vote
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Abstained:
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Kristina Rosette (IPC) Statement
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William Drake (NCUC) Statement
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Philip Sheppard (CBUC)
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Anthony Harris (ISPC)
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Tim
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Subject: Re: [council] Council vote on by-laws
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From: "Anthony Harris" <harris@cabase.org.ar>
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Date: Fri, July 10, 2009 9:33 am
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To: "Philip Sheppard" <philip.sheppard@aim.be>, "'Council GNSO'"
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Avri,
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Perhaps, in this sunset of the GNSO as  we
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accomodating this rather simple request    from
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three of the existing constituencies.
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I beleive that all of us are trying to get the
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restructuring process "right", and certain
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issues are important to some rather than to
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others. I think the Board deserves to be
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aware of this.
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Thank you.
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Tony Harris
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----- Original Message -----
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From: "Philip Sheppard" <philip.sheppard@aim.be>
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To: "'Council GNSO'" <council@gnso.icann.org>
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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:28 AM
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Subject: [council] Council vote on by-laws
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Avri,
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this request is about transparency and      relevance.
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It is a formal request from the BC.
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Philip
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