I personally think it is fine and appropriate to ask each Councilor to declare whether or not they would be affected by a given vote. In the case of this motion, it seems like it might be reasonable for each of us to simply state how we would be impacted. Going beyond that though, could get overly complicated and could put the Council or Staff into an enforcement role for which I do not believe we are well suited or qualified. The RyC has always supported the idea of funding for individuals who have a financial need. The majority of the Council supported funding on a broader basis than that and it may not be a good use of time to revisit that issue. Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:44 AM To: Gomes, Chuck; Avri Doria; Council GNSO; Robert Hoggarth Subject: RE: [council] Additional topic and motion for this weeks agenda
OK.
Let's try this.
Rather than abstain perhaps every Councillor can declare their interest in the GNSO Council.
Would it be inappropriate for every Councillor to declare if they or the organisation they work for has not ever been remunerated for work, received a benefit, or invoiced another organisation for an ICANN (i.e. domain name) related or DNS related issue.
Look forward to your responses.
Adrian Kinderis
-----Original Message----- From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Friday, 14 August 2009 10:28 PM To: Adrian Kinderis; Avri Doria; Council GNSO; Robert Hoggarth Subject: RE: [council] Additional topic and motion for this weeks agenda
Adrian,
It seems to me that if we follow this approach, any vote on a travel policy that provides possible funding for all Councilors would create a conflict for everyone who plans to request travel funds. Because a majority of Councilors may fit that category, we would never be able to achieve a majority if they all abstained. Also, the decision would then be left to those who are not going to request the funds, which I am not sure is fair.
I personally think that we should try to get more information about what the actual need may be so that we know what we are actually dealing with. In the case of the RyC, we have one Council seat that will be up for election. Assuming that my seat and Edmon's are left in tack, that means that we have the possibility of having either three or four people affected by this motion; three if Jordi is re-elected; four if a new person is selected to fill his seat. I for one will not be requesting travel funds and I will check with Edmon and Jordi.
Rob - would you please resend the analysis that was done regarding Council seats that shows which seats are termed out, which ones are continuing, etc.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Kinderis Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:00 AM To: Avri Doria; Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] Additional topic and motion for this weeks agenda
Avri,
I propose that if and when this motion is made that all Councillors that may not be continuing on the new Council due to the reorganisation abstain from voting as they are significantly conflicted. That is; they are effectively voting for their own free trip to ICANN.
Thanks.
Adrian Kinderis
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2009 2:31 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] Additional topic and motion for this weeks agenda
Hi,
Since I was not able to send the proposed letter on increased travel support due to the absence of consensus, I have added it as an AOB topic to the agenda and have included a possible motion. Since this letter has been on the table and list for consensus consideration for over 2 weeks, I hope that it is acceptable to put it forward for this week's meeting.
the motion (as yet not made or seconded):
Motion made by:
Seconded by:
Whereas:
The plan is to seat the new council in Seoul,
and current council members may not longer be council members at that time
Resolved:
Send the following letter:
Letter to Kevin Wilson,
I have been mandated by the GNSO council, by a vote of XX to YY, to request support not only for the members of the new bi-cameral council to be seated at Seoul, but also for those current council members who may not be continuing on the new council due to the reorganization.
The reason this request is being made is to provide continuity to the GNSO council at this time of restructuring, reorganization and 'improvement.'
Thank you Avri Doria for the GNSO Council
-- thanks
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