Councilors – I recognize that this may have gotten lost in your holiday inbox. ☺ But if possible, please weigh in with your thoughts before our next meeting. Thank you, J. ----- James Bladel From: Council Mailing List <owner-council@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@godaddy.com> Date: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 14:04 To: Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg@isoc-cr.org> Cc: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org>, Klaus Stoll <kdrstoll@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [council] RC / IGO / CRP Updates This sender failed our fraud detection checks and may not be who they appear to be. Learn about spoofing<http://aka.ms/LearnAboutSpoofing> Feedback<http://aka.ms/SafetyTipsFeedback> Thanks, Carlos. Great feedback, and I’ll be sure to relay this to Thomas. Ultimately, it is the GAC Chair who will determine who / which vice-chairs will participate on their behalf. Some of their current participants are, I believe, vice chairs (current or former). Thank you, J. ----- James Bladel From: Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg@isoc-cr.org> Date: Monday, December 26, 2016 at 10:08 To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@godaddy.com> Cc: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org>, Klaus Stoll <kdrstoll@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [council] RC / IGO / CRP Updates James, I would like to recommend to try to involve at least all GAC Vice Chairs fro such a well prepared exercise, so as to get a better feeling of how strong&urgent this issue is for all Governments involved, as compared to other pending issues. In my view this discussion has a strong transatlantic flavor (only), and would like to get more input from other countries if there is any, as well as how close or far it is from the INGOs and the NPOCs-of the World, in case there is any bottom-up input to the issue. Only recently the case of the Red Cross has gained its own independent slot at the GAC Communique level, and I would hope we can look for a general framework/path for all 3 segments (IGOs, INGOs and Quangos like the Red Cross and Red Crescent) instead of having to deal with each segment individually. Best Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez ISOC Costa Rica Chapter skype carlos.raulg +506 8837 7176 ________ Apartado 1571-1000 COSTA RICA On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 11:50 AM, James M. Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>> wrote: Council Colleagues – At the Second Public Forum in Hyderabad, Bruce Tonkin reported on the Board’s discussions regarding the inconsistencies between GAC Advice and GNSO Policy Recommendations on the subject of RC/IGO protections. At this session, Bruce made the following comment: “The board met yesterday and we had a discussion about, you know, how best to move this forward, and we haven't made any resolution at this meeting because we want to talk to the different parties, but the gist of our suggestion is that we like the idea of some sort of facilitated discussion between the GNSO and GAC. We think it's important that in doing such a discussion, that there's a clear set of shared information and briefing documents that are available for all the parties in that discussion. “ http://schd.ws/hosted_files/icann572016/60/I57%20HYD_Tue08Nov2016-Public%20F... Since we left Hyderabad, there hasn’t been much progress to report on this front. However, this week the Council chairs (Donna, Heather and myself) had a brief call with Bruce, Becky and a few other folks from the Board, and also with Thomas Schneider and a few other folks from the GAC. During this call, we brainstormed about a potential for a public session on this topic at ICANN58 in Copenhagen, and also discussed what materials & documents we should gather to ensure a constructive dialog (trialog?). However, before we get too far in to this “facilitated discussion”, we first wanted to check in with the Council (and by extension, your SGs and Cs) and start a conversation to establish some boundaries and get consensus on our direction: • Any concerns about participating with the Board & GAC on this effort? I don’t believe this is the case, but worth asking at the outset. o Also, we’d like to keep the GNSO “delegation” small: Chairs, GAC Liaison (Carlos) but situationally include subject matter experts (Phil, Petter, Thomas Rickert, etc.) • It is not our intention to “negotiate” or “compromise” on the substance of community-developed policy. These are not ours to trade away. o Instead, the goal is to familiarize the other participants with GNSO procedures, provide rationale for how the recommendations were reached, and (only if necessary) describe the process for asking the GNSO community to revisit their earlier recommendations. • Naturally, we would report back to Council with any major developments, decisions or agreements. • Any other thoughts, questions or concerns from this Council. Thanks in advance for your feedback. And on behalf of Heather, Donna and myself: Have a great holiday break! All the best wishes to Councilors, Staff and their families & friends, and looking forward to a productive and prosperous 2017. Thank you, J. ----- James Bladel