The Council motion also addressed the timing issue, prioritizing the work by putting this PDP on a very quick path to completion. Hearing from Staff that it will take years to conclude, at the outset, is disheartening and has no basis in fact. Councils track record on PDPs in the past few years indicates that they go much faster than that, as Staff ought to be well aware. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 <http://rodenbaugh.com/> http://rodenbaugh.com From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Margie Milam Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:53 AM To: Stéphane Van Gelder; Adrian Kinderis Cc: GNSO Council List Subject: RE: [council] Vertical Integration Stéphane and Adrian, Yes, the Issues Report on Vertical Integration discussed this issue (see page 24 of http://gnso.icann.org/issues/vertical-integration/report-04dec09-en.pdf). Because the outcome of a PDP is uncertain (it is possible that no recommendation will be produced or that the PDP will take years to conclude), the implementation activities will continue to be pursued in parallel with the GNSOs PDP activities. Best Regards, Margie Milam _____________ Margie Milam Senior Policy Counselor ICANN ______________ From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:34 AM To: Adrian Kinderis Cc: GNSO Council List Subject: Re: [council] Vertical Integration Isn't this what Staff told us in the issues report, that the work Staff are doing on this for the DAG would continue whether (I hesitate to use the term "despite") the Council initiated a PDP or not? Stéphane Le 17 févr. 2010 à 05:33, Adrian Kinderis a écrit : Council, Further to my previous email please see the following from the ICANN website (http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-4-15feb10-en.htm); Vertical Integration (aka Registry/Registrar Separation) Based on debates on the subject held at the ICANN meetings in Seoul, discussion during the consultation with certain community representatives held on 7 January 2010 in Washington D.C., and ongoing study, ICANN will propose for community comment a new registry-registrar separation model for inclusion in the next draft of the gTLD agreement. Additionally, the Board and community members will be discussing the issue in Nairobi. ICANN are proposing what? Huh? What about the PDP? Im still confused! Adrian Kinderis