Hello all, Thanks Bruce. I'd like to note that I am in support of the GNSO Council resolutions of November 16 which I was not able to vote for on the call and which have been posted to date on the GNSO discussion list. Following your response, Bruce, to the point I made previously, I'm suspecting that problematic cases might arise if a few of those lost votes would make a difference. It's also worth noting that we've seen issues that had triggered much of the discussion on the list before the teleconference call for vote (and the discussion on the call didn't bring anything new, or decisive.) So maybe we need to think of making allowances so that in certain conditions the vote off call would count? I know it can be complex, but maybe we could make sure we have considered all the options. Regards, Mawaki --- Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au> wrote:
Hello Mawaki,
I know we have discussed this before but we didn't seem to come to a consensus about this, if I'm not mistaken. While the council has decided not to allow proxy anymore for voting (I must say I've forgotten how that decision was made),
The requirement derives from this bylaws rule:
"Members of the GNSO Council may participate in a meeting of the GNSO Council through use of (i) conference telephone or similar communications equipment, provided that all members participating in such a meeting can speak to and hear one another or (ii) electronic video screen communication or other communication equipment; provided that (a) all members participating in such a meeting can speak to and hear one another, (b) all members are provided the means of fully participating in all matters before the GNSO Council, and (c) ICANN adopts and implements means of verifying that (x) a person participating in such a meeting is a member of the GNSO Council or other person entitled to participate in the meeting and (y) all actions of, or votes by, the GNSO Council are taken or cast only by the members of the GNSO Council and not persons who are not members. "
The important point being that all members can "speak to and hear one another". The basis for this I believe is that Council members make a decision after hearing all the arguments for and against a particular motion.
wouldn't it be possible and even desirable to allow the staff to record councilors' vote in cases where attending the call, they might have been prevented for technical reasons to be present on the call at the moment of the vote?
Probably depends on just how much of a discussion was missed, but in the past what we have done is recorded the way a Council member would vote in the minutes
E.g
"Motion passed x votes to y votes"
Council member "z" wasn't present for the vote, but attended the meeting for most of the discussion. "z" wishes to note the he/she is in favour/against the motion.
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
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