Thanks Tomslin. I wish it did. I guess the way to read it is that the Phase 2 policy work has to be done before the next round and that any implementation could take place parallel to the next round. The PCR says this about when the policy work for Phase 2 will be wrapped up: “Publish Phase 2 Initial Report for Public Comment by April 2025 Submit Phase 2 Final Report to the GNSO Council by November 2025 ○ Note: since the EPDP Team is not expected to start Phase 2 deliberation before November 2023, the projected milestone dates for Phase 2 have more uncertainty and are subject change, based on the observation of the team’s progress during Phase 2 deliberations.” So, November 2025 would be the soonest that Org has the Phase 2 missing piece so at that point they could begin final preparations for the next round? That would put the next round at November 2026, soonest. Since ICANN is no longer a government contractor, it has sprouted many, chaotic competitors in the so-called crypto domain name space. A 2026 launch date for the next round isn’t practical. Please let me know if you are reading this differently. If you are not, we need to have Donna back in to answer the question directly and give us a different plan that won’t delay the next round for another 4 years (noting we are already 10 years behind the schedule found in the last Applicant Guidebook). If you are reading it differently, we still need Donna to confirm one way or the other since if I can read it one way, and you can read it another (both of us being very reasonable people), then the text is unclear. Best, Paul From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2022 3:48 AM To: McGrady, Jr., Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> Cc: Farell FOLLY <farell@benin2point0.org>; GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Motion regarding the PCRequested by the IDNs-EPDP Team Hi Paul, I think this excerpt from the PCR answers that question, no?"The EPDP Team believes that bifurcating its work will prioritize the current planning of the SubPro implementation that is focused primarily on the top-level. 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"The EPDP Team believes that bifurcating its work will prioritize the current planning of the SubPro implementation that is focused primarily on the top-level. This approach does not remove the interaction of the second-level work by the EPDP Team with the SubPro implementation. While most of the second-level related questions need to be addressed before the next round, their implementation can be performed near the end of the implementation cycle." Warmly, Tomslin On Tue, 8 Nov 2022, 08:18 McGrady, Jr., Paul D. via council, <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Thanks Farrell. Did we ever get a direct answer as to whether or not this proposed extension would affect the timeline for the next round of TLDs? I don’t know how to vote until I get a direct answer on that. Thanks for any news (or any news anyone else on this email may have)! Best, Paul Taft / Paul D. 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