Sure Norbert. First of all let me make it clear that I am NOT at all suggesting that there is 'minimal chance to move towards asking for funding information on studies'. All I am saying is that I do not believe that we will be ready to make a decision in Cairo regarding identification of studies for which we want staff to prepare cost extimates. I think you will see when the RyC submits its analysis and recommendations on 29 October that we also believe there is value in pursuing some Whois studies further. And I also believe that it won't take a long time to identify the studies for further work; I just don't believe we will be able to finalize that in Cairo. I personally spent a lot of time on this topic in the past couple weeks and it convinced me that it is fairly complicated to do analytically. At the same time, I think that the RyC will be able to reach agreement on our analysis and recommendations by 29 October and I am hopeful that our contribution will facilitate the Council work on this in the next month or so. Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Norbert Klein [mailto:nhklein@gmx.net] Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 10:25 AM To: Gomes, Chuck Cc: Avri Doria; Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] Motion on Whois studies
Hi Chuck,
could you please elaborate a bit why you think there is only a minimal chance to move towards asking for funding information on studies?
It is surely useful to get a more detailed analysis with recommendations for studies in future, but I thought as a starting step it would not be so difficult for staff to identify past time/funds used for studies? And then the additions for non-staff time/money dedicated to past studies could be added as estimates to get a general idea.
Even the very detailed analysis the RyC is proposing would have to start with the same basic initial survey, I think. And we would have a first - tough interim - collection of data sooner, before we might embark on further studies. I understood that was Avri's intention.
But maybe my assumptions are wrong?
Norbert
On Sunday, 19 October 2008 20:11:04 Gomes, Chuck wrote:
My opinion: there is very minimal chance that 'we would be in position to take a vote on a motion to request funding information on studies'.
As I shared in our 16 Oct meeting, the RyC is in the process of finalizing a very detailed analysis with recommendations for studies to pursue further and we plan to submit that to the Council on 29 October. It is possible that other constituencies or advisory groups or individuals will have submitted recommendations by that time as well. So I think our time in Cairo will be focused on reviewing and discussing those submissions and mapping out an approach for identifying studies for which we want Staff to prepare cost estimates. But I believe it will be a fairly involved process that we will not be able to complete until after Cairo.
I do agree with assigning 'prominence to the item on the schedule' but I do not believe we will be ready to make a decision.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:38 PM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] Motion on Whois studies
Hi,
While putting together the agenda for the Cairo week, I was wondering whether there was any chance we would be in position to take a vote on a motion to request funding information on studies.
If so, we need to have a draft of the motion on the table as soon as possible for people to consider and discuss with their constituencies. I know a lot of work is still ongoing in some of the constituencies, but this activity has been pending a while and we are overdue on our schedule. At the very least we need a definitive view of where we are in the process and a clear schedule of when we will take the next step.
I have assigned some prominence to the item on the schedule in the expectation that we work to do it.
Thanks
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