Hi Ayden I can live with the language as it is, but it’s a very broad statement and for me it raises a number of questions and concerns. Who decides which volunteers are productive contributors to ICANN activities and how do you prioritize who receives funding; does continued funding of the ‘usual suspects’ over an extended period lessen the opportunity for bringing in newcomers and new ideas for dealing with issues; would these volunteers be just as productive contributing via remote participation. Donna From: Ayden Férdeline [mailto:icann@ferdeline.com] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 10:43 AM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Cc: Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com>; Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com>; gnso-secs@icann.org; GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Re: Community travel support consultation - draft of proposed response Dear Donna, Thank you for opening up this conversation. I noticed that you highlighted the following sentence: And appended the following comment: "I do have some concerns with this statement. I don’t think there should be an expectation of ongoing financial support over an extended period of time." I consider the sentence above to be reasonable and narrow in scope, though I would be open to changing "ICANN activities" to "GNSO Council activities" if that would allow us to move forward. Thank you, Ayden Férdeline -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Re: Community travel support consultation - draft of proposed response Local Time: 17 November 2017 11:42 PM UTC Time: 17 November 2017 23:42 From: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> To: Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>>, Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com<mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com>> gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Erika, all I have a fundamental problem with the Council calling out any program or recipients of any ICANN funded travel for special scrutiny in our comments. I could provide a long-list of problems that I have with certain groups that receive travel funding that go beyond those that are listed. If individual SGs and Cs want to make such comments they are free to do so, but I do not think it is the Council’s place to do so. I think ICANN is headed down a good path in reviewing the Travel Guidelines and we should be supportive of that. A more reasonable approach at this time might be to make some high level observations. I have made some changes to the doc to include more detail about Council travel support initiatives. Donna From: council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Erika Mann Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 12:13 PM To: Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com<mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com>> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>; GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [council] Community travel support consultation - draft of proposed response Tatiana, Michele, Ayden - Thanks for the work! How about mentioning that there's concern that the Fellowship Program is not sufficiently focusing on ICANN issues? I made a recommendation below. If you don't like it, change it or don't include it. Both is fine with me. Cheers, Erika You are welcome to append any general comments on the community resource consultation We would like to point out that the document contains no questions related to such programs as the ICANN fellowship, NextGen@ICANN, and pilot communityonboarding program. ICANN travel reports show that many of the travelers who ICANN supports with travel funding participate in these programs. The costs of these programs for ICANN are quite high compared to AC/SO travel expenses. The value and effectiveness of these programs are, however, unclear to many of the community members. EM - recommendation to add: "There's growing concern that the program is not sufficiently focusing on ICANN matters." Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com<mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear all, Michele, Ayden and I reviewed the Community Travel Support Consultation Questionnaire and drafted a proposed response from the GNSO Council perspective. Please find the document attached. The deadline for submission of this response is actually today, but we asked for a few days of extension. If you could review the document and provide your feedback until Monday COB (whatever timezone COB is for you), it would be greatly appreciated. If you need more time - please let me (us) know. Thanks! 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