Re: [council] Updated/Extended EPDP Chair EOI
Thanks – I also agree that an extension is sensible. We don’t need to wait until the new Chair is found to start this important work though; Rafik is a very capable interim Chair! As for the concept of a paid chair I support exploring this concept as it will ensure we get someone who is engaged and motivated. I’m not so convinced that co-chairs, especially one from each house, is the way to go, however: we need a single strong independent chair that can ensure quick forward movement. A pair / trio of co-chairs could result in a situation where well-entrenched and known views impede progress. I also still think Michele’s idea of a ccNSO person would be great – if we know anyone willing to take this on! Best Marie From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Darcy Southwell Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 7:48 PM To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com<mailto:icann@ferdeline.com>> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>; council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Updated/Extended EPDP Chair EOI Thanks, Keith. Agree a two week extension is reasonable given the circumstances. I hope providing additional details about the anticipated workload, pace, and intensity for phase 2 increases the pool of viable candidates. But for the sake of argument, what if it does not? I think we need to start thinking that through now and not wait until our 18 April meeting to start considering our options. A few thoughts I have: * We can extend the application deadline one more time if necessary; although doing so is likely only productive if there is a serious outreach campaign to locate additional qualified applicants. * What if the chair was a paid position? I know this wasn't a popular idea during our Kobe meeting, and I can understand why. But maybe we need to rethink that and explore budget options with ICANN. * Re-evaluate the charter for leadership make up/selection. * What if we select 2 co-chairs, one from each house? * If Council selects the chair through the established process, maybe each house selects a vice chair. With 2 vice chairs, the chair will have more support. Ideas from others? Thanks, Darcy On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 8:20 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com<mailto:icann@ferdeline.com>> wrote: Thanks for this, Keith. A two week extension sounds most sensible. Best wishes, Ayden ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Monday, March 25, 2019 2:40 PM, Drazek, Keith via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi all, The deadline for the EOI response has passed and there was only one respondent. In light of the EPDP and GNSO Council discussions in Kobe, I think it’s appropriate to extend the deadline for two weeks to Monday, 8 April while providing some additional details about the anticipated work load and pace/intensity of Phase 2. I hope this will inform potential Chair candidates and encourage a more robust response. We have updated the attached EOI document accordingly, which will be posted later today. Please let me know if you have any questions. Regards, Keith From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 7:54 PM To: Drazek, Keith <kdrazek@verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Updated EPDP Team EOI How does the attached look? Note that I’ll be traveling part of the day tomorrow so I may be less responsive. Please make sure to copy in Nathalie on the final version so she can co-ordinate the distribution. 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I agree that a single, independent chair is the key to moving this forward with needed speed. Independent, to me, doesn’t mean that they don’t come from any SG or C’s, but rather that they have shown in the past their ability to neutrally chair a WG. This is why Kurt’s application was acceptable, even though he is viewed as closely knit with Contracted Parties. Best, Paul From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Marie Pattullo Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 4:03 AM To: Council GNSO <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Updated/Extended EPDP Chair EOI Thanks – I also agree that an extension is sensible. We don’t need to wait until the new Chair is found to start this important work though; Rafik is a very capable interim Chair! As for the concept of a paid chair I support exploring this concept as it will ensure we get someone who is engaged and motivated. I’m not so convinced that co-chairs, especially one from each house, is the way to go, however: we need a single strong independent chair that can ensure quick forward movement. A pair / trio of co-chairs could result in a situation where well-entrenched and known views impede progress. I also still think Michele’s idea of a ccNSO person would be great – if we know anyone willing to take this on! Best Marie From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Darcy Southwell Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 7:48 PM To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com<mailto:icann@ferdeline.com>> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>; council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Updated/Extended EPDP Chair EOI Thanks, Keith. Agree a two week extension is reasonable given the circumstances. I hope providing additional details about the anticipated workload, pace, and intensity for phase 2 increases the pool of viable candidates. But for the sake of argument, what if it does not? I think we need to start thinking that through now and not wait until our 18 April meeting to start considering our options. A few thoughts I have: * We can extend the application deadline one more time if necessary; although doing so is likely only productive if there is a serious outreach campaign to locate additional qualified applicants. * What if the chair was a paid position? I know this wasn't a popular idea during our Kobe meeting, and I can understand why. But maybe we need to rethink that and explore budget options with ICANN. * Re-evaluate the charter for leadership make up/selection. * What if we select 2 co-chairs, one from each house? * If Council selects the chair through the established process, maybe each house selects a vice chair. With 2 vice chairs, the chair will have more support. Ideas from others? Thanks, Darcy On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 8:20 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com<mailto:icann@ferdeline.com>> wrote: Thanks for this, Keith. A two week extension sounds most sensible. Best wishes, Ayden ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Monday, March 25, 2019 2:40 PM, Drazek, Keith via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi all, The deadline for the EOI response has passed and there was only one respondent. In light of the EPDP and GNSO Council discussions in Kobe, I think it’s appropriate to extend the deadline for two weeks to Monday, 8 April while providing some additional details about the anticipated work load and pace/intensity of Phase 2. I hope this will inform potential Chair candidates and encourage a more robust response. We have updated the attached EOI document accordingly, which will be posted later today. Please let me know if you have any questions. Regards, Keith From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 7:54 PM To: Drazek, Keith <kdrazek@verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Updated EPDP Team EOI How does the attached look? Note that I’ll be traveling part of the day tomorrow so I may be less responsive. Please make sure to copy in Nathalie on the final version so she can co-ordinate the distribution. 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All: An extension is indeed preferable. Thanks to Darcy, Michele and Marie. I agree with the strong independent paid chair concept. I also like the ccNSO-person idea if the person in question commits to a declaration of independence and impartiality. Best regards, Flip Flip Petillion fpetillion@petillion.law +32484652653 www.petillion.law [signature_1638038090]<http://www.petillion.law/> Attorneys – Advocaten - Avocats From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be> Date: Wednesday, 27 March 2019 at 10:03 To: Council GNSO <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Updated/Extended EPDP Chair EOI Thanks – I also agree that an extension is sensible. We don’t need to wait until the new Chair is found to start this important work though; Rafik is a very capable interim Chair! As for the concept of a paid chair I support exploring this concept as it will ensure we get someone who is engaged and motivated. I’m not so convinced that co-chairs, especially one from each house, is the way to go, however: we need a single strong independent chair that can ensure quick forward movement. A pair / trio of co-chairs could result in a situation where well-entrenched and known views impede progress. I also still think Michele’s idea of a ccNSO person would be great – if we know anyone willing to take this on! Best Marie From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Darcy Southwell Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 7:48 PM To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com<mailto:icann@ferdeline.com>> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>; council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Updated/Extended EPDP Chair EOI Thanks, Keith. Agree a two week extension is reasonable given the circumstances. I hope providing additional details about the anticipated workload, pace, and intensity for phase 2 increases the pool of viable candidates. But for the sake of argument, what if it does not? I think we need to start thinking that through now and not wait until our 18 April meeting to start considering our options. A few thoughts I have: * We can extend the application deadline one more time if necessary; although doing so is likely only productive if there is a serious outreach campaign to locate additional qualified applicants. * What if the chair was a paid position? I know this wasn't a popular idea during our Kobe meeting, and I can understand why. But maybe we need to rethink that and explore budget options with ICANN. * Re-evaluate the charter for leadership make up/selection. * What if we select 2 co-chairs, one from each house? * If Council selects the chair through the established process, maybe each house selects a vice chair. With 2 vice chairs, the chair will have more support. Ideas from others? Thanks, Darcy On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 8:20 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com<mailto:icann@ferdeline.com>> wrote: Thanks for this, Keith. A two week extension sounds most sensible. Best wishes, Ayden ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Monday, March 25, 2019 2:40 PM, Drazek, Keith via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi all, The deadline for the EOI response has passed and there was only one respondent. In light of the EPDP and GNSO Council discussions in Kobe, I think it’s appropriate to extend the deadline for two weeks to Monday, 8 April while providing some additional details about the anticipated work load and pace/intensity of Phase 2. I hope this will inform potential Chair candidates and encourage a more robust response. We have updated the attached EOI document accordingly, which will be posted later today. Please let me know if you have any questions. Regards, Keith From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 7:54 PM To: Drazek, Keith <kdrazek@verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Updated EPDP Team EOI How does the attached look? Note that I’ll be traveling part of the day tomorrow so I may be less responsive. Please make sure to copy in Nathalie on the final version so she can co-ordinate the distribution. 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Flip Petillion
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McGrady, Paul D.