For your review: draft response to GAC re: urgent request timeline and authentication
Dear Councilors, During the December 2024 Council meeting, Support Staff captured the following action item: GNSO Council leadership to draft a letter to the GAC for Council review to better understand the GAC proposal from 15 October. The letter will focus on questions regarding the potential authentication methods for law enforcement and to further understand the expected policy work by GAC or other activities relating to urgent requests, in preparation for the meeting with the GAC and the Board. Leadership has developed a draft response for your review: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jYmI4iiW_UTMMiRl7IrfowUvXVvaeBZv/edit?us.... Please review the draft in advance of the upcoming meeting and ensure the Council’s discussion and concerns are fully captured. You are welcome to provide comments directly in the draft. Thank you. Best regards, Caitlin
Thanks Caitlin. This looks good in that it is very thorough and accurately reflects what the Council discussed. I do think that it would be better to specifically set forth the Council's questions to the GAC in a short summary at the end. Maybe something like: "The Council looks forward to furthering this work as soon as possible and would appreciate the GAC's responses to the following questions: 1. Has law enforcement authentication work begun within the PSWG and/or the GAC as a whote? 2. Would GNSO Council members be welcome to join this work? 3. Does the GAC recognize that authentication for urgent requests involves a second step to evaluate the nature of the request itself under GDPR in addition to authentication of the law enforcement authority making the request?" I think if we are not specific about recapping our questions, we won't get clear answers. I also note that the word "appreciate" appears in the first two sentences and seems a bit redundant. Thank you, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 9:03 AM Caitlin Tubergen via council < council@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Councilors,
During the December 2024 Council meeting, Support Staff captured the following action item:
*GNSO Council leadership to draft a letter to the GAC for Council review to better understand the GAC proposal from 15 October. The letter will focus on questions regarding the potential authentication methods for law enforcement and to further understand the expected policy work by GAC or other activities relating to urgent requests, in preparation for the meeting with the GAC and the Board.*
Leadership has developed a draft response for your review: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jYmI4iiW_UTMMiRl7IrfowUvXVvaeBZv/edit?us... .
Please review the draft in advance of the upcoming meeting and ensure the Council’s discussion and concerns are fully captured. You are welcome to provide comments directly in the draft.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Caitlin
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Hi Anne Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I agree with you that the draft letter accurately reflects the discussion so far. Whilst I see some merit in repeating the questions at the end of the letter, however I have no strong objections to sending it as it stands, since its primary purpose is to provide clarifications to the GAC, rather than to solely pose questions. The rephrased more detailed questions remain relevant and could serve for our next engagement with the GAC. I also believe that it's important to emphasise the need for additional steps needed during any disclosure request, even when a global authentication mechanism exists. This is an important point for our next discussion, and the Council could play a key role in providing further clarification in our next trilateral meetings with the Board and the GAC. Desiree -- On Monday, 6 January 2025 at 18:58, Anne ICANN via council <council@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Caitlin. This looks good in that it is very thorough and accurately reflects what the Council discussed. I do think that it would be better to specifically set forth the Council's questions to the GAC in a short summary at the end. Maybe something like:
"The Council looks forward to furthering this work as soon as possible and would appreciate the GAC's responses to the following questions:
1. Has law enforcement authentication work begun within the PSWG and/or the GAC as a whote? 2. Would GNSO Council members be welcome to join this work? 3. Does the GAC recognize that authentication for urgent requests involves a second step to evaluate the nature of the request itself under GDPR in addition to authentication of the law enforcement authority making the request?"
I think if we are not specific about recapping our questions, we won't get clear answers.
I also note that the word "appreciate" appears in the first two sentences and seems a bit redundant.
Thank you, Anne
Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026 anneicanngnso@gmail.com
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 9:03 AM Caitlin Tubergen via council <council@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Councilors,
During the December 2024 Council meeting, Support Staff captured the following action item:
GNSO Council leadership to draft a letter to the GAC for Council review to better understand the GAC proposal from 15 October. The letter will focus on questions regarding the potential authentication methods for law enforcement and to further understand the expected policy work by GAC or other activities relating to urgent requests, in preparation for the meeting with the GAC and the Board.
Leadership has developed a draft response for your review: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jYmI4iiW_UTMMiRl7IrfowUvXVvaeBZv/edit?us....
Please review the draft in advance of the upcoming meeting and ensure the Council’s discussion and concerns are fully captured. You are welcome to provide comments directly in the draft.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Caitlin
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Thanks Desiree. I think these were the questions developed in the Council meeting in December so it seems to me we need to make them very clear at this point. Of course I am open to whatever redrafting Leadership believes to be appropriate in this regard but without this specificity, it tends to look as though Council is trying to prolong/stall the process and I think that is not good at this stage. Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 12:33 PM desiree-me <desiree-me@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi Anne
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I agree with you that the draft letter accurately reflects the discussion so far. Whilst I see some merit in repeating the questions at the end of the letter, however I have no strong objections to sending it as it stands, since its primary purpose is to provide clarifications to the GAC, rather than to solely pose questions.
The rephrased more detailed questions remain relevant and could serve for our next engagement with the GAC.
I also believe that it's important to emphasise the need for additional steps needed during any disclosure request, even when a global authentication mechanism exists. This is an important point for our next discussion, and the Council could play a key role in providing further clarification in our next trilateral meetings with the Board and the GAC.
Desiree --
On Monday, 6 January 2025 at 18:58, Anne ICANN via council < council@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Caitlin. This looks good in that it is very thorough and accurately reflects what the Council discussed. I do think that it would be better to specifically set forth the Council's questions to the GAC in a short summary at the end. Maybe something like:
"The Council looks forward to furthering this work as soon as possible and would appreciate the GAC's responses to the following questions:
1. Has law enforcement authentication work begun within the PSWG and/or the GAC as a whote? 2. Would GNSO Council members be welcome to join this work? 3. Does the GAC recognize that authentication for urgent requests involves a second step to evaluate the nature of the request itself under GDPR in addition to authentication of the law enforcement authority making the request?"
I think if we are not specific about recapping our questions, we won't get clear answers.
I also note that the word "appreciate" appears in the first two sentences and seems a bit redundant.
Thank you, Anne
Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026 anneicanngnso@gmail.com
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 9:03 AM Caitlin Tubergen via council < council@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Councilors,
During the December 2024 Council meeting, Support Staff captured the following action item:
*GNSO Council leadership to draft a letter to the GAC for Council review to better understand the GAC proposal from 15 October. The letter will focus on questions regarding the potential authentication methods for law enforcement and to further understand the expected policy work by GAC or other activities relating to urgent requests, in preparation for the meeting with the GAC and the Board.*
Leadership has developed a draft response for your review: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jYmI4iiW_UTMMiRl7IrfowUvXVvaeBZv/edit?us... .
Please review the draft in advance of the upcoming meeting and ensure the Council’s discussion and concerns are fully captured. You are welcome to provide comments directly in the draft.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Caitlin
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