FW: DNS Entrepreneurship Center
From: Johan Helsingius Resending, as this doesn't seem to have made it the first time around. On the ICANN blog, there is a news item about the "DNS entrepreneurship center", https://www.icann.org/news/blog/icann-launches-first-dns-entrepreneurship-ce... As I don't have a very long history with the GNSO, I am wondering if the GNSO has been involved in any way? Do DNS-related topics fall within the remit of the GNSO? Julf
Hi Julf, I am unaware of this initiative and don't recall this ever being on our agenda. There have been training events organized by ICANN in Egypt recently, but nothing as formalized as this. Best, Volker Am 20.11.2015 um 12:22 schrieb Glen de Saint Géry:
From: Johan Helsingius Resending, as this doesn't seem to have made it the first time around.
On the ICANN blog, there is a news item about the "DNS entrepreneurship center",
https://www.icann.org/news/blog/icann-launches-first-dns-entrepreneurship-ce...
As I don't have a very long history with the GNSO, I am wondering if the GNSO has been involved in any way? Do DNS-related topics fall within the remit of the GNSO?
Julf
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Hi Julf I don't believe the Council has had any direct involvement in the development of the Center. My understanding is that this is an initiative led by Baher Esmat who is part of ICANN's Global Stakeholder Engagement Team, and responsible for the Middle East. Marika or Mary could probably confirm. Considerable work has been done in the region by Baher and his team. More information is available at: https://community.icann.org/display/MES/Middle+East+Working+Group Thanks Donna -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Volker Greimann Sent: Friday, 20 November 2015 5:29 AM To: GNSO Council List (council@gnso.icann.org) <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] FW: DNS Entrepreneurship Center Hi Julf, I am unaware of this initiative and don't recall this ever being on our agenda. There have been training events organized by ICANN in Egypt recently, but nothing as formalized as this. Best, Volker Am 20.11.2015 um 12:22 schrieb Glen de Saint Géry:
From: Johan Helsingius Resending, as this doesn't seem to have made it the first time around.
On the ICANN blog, there is a news item about the "DNS entrepreneurship center",
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_new s_blog_icann-2Dlaunches-2Dfirst-2Ddns-2Dentrepreneurship-2Dcenter-2Din -2Degypt&d=CwID-g&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56er yGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=6_fW1gwiMyumDoFCBVGDjjOsXYKCkDn8I__twNl4IC4&s=ilq WKu1O_RsiHWQhC3_CUaM1_6Xj4Tz1gSnnWZa5s4A&e=
As I don't have a very long history with the GNSO, I am wondering if the GNSO has been involved in any way? Do DNS-related topics fall within the remit of the GNSO?
Julf
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Hi, The DNS-EC was created as part of ICANN’s regional strategy for the Middle East and Adjoining Countries (MEAC), however, it is meant to serve the MEAC as well as Africa. Although the GNSO Council has not had any input to this centre, there are members of the GNSO community who have been involved with it in their individual capacities. As Donna noted, Baher would be an ideal person to provide more information on this centre. Manal Ismail, the Egyptian representative on the GAC is also very involved in the setup of this initiative, and can provide insight. I’m certain either one of them would gladly answer any questions folks may have. Some info on the DNS-EC is also available on it website: http://dns-ec.eg. Thanks. Amr
On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:51 PM, Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@neustar.biz> wrote:
Hi Julf
I don't believe the Council has had any direct involvement in the development of the Center. My understanding is that this is an initiative led by Baher Esmat who is part of ICANN's Global Stakeholder Engagement Team, and responsible for the Middle East. Marika or Mary could probably confirm.
Considerable work has been done in the region by Baher and his team. More information is available at: https://community.icann.org/display/MES/Middle+East+Working+Group
Thanks
Donna
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Volker Greimann Sent: Friday, 20 November 2015 5:29 AM To: GNSO Council List (council@gnso.icann.org) <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] FW: DNS Entrepreneurship Center
Hi Julf,
I am unaware of this initiative and don't recall this ever being on our agenda.
There have been training events organized by ICANN in Egypt recently, but nothing as formalized as this.
Best,
Volker
Am 20.11.2015 um 12:22 schrieb Glen de Saint Géry:
From: Johan Helsingius Resending, as this doesn't seem to have made it the first time around.
On the ICANN blog, there is a news item about the "DNS entrepreneurship center",
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_new s_blog_icann-2Dlaunches-2Dfirst-2Ddns-2Dentrepreneurship-2Dcenter-2Din -2Degypt&d=CwID-g&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56er yGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=6_fW1gwiMyumDoFCBVGDjjOsXYKCkDn8I__twNl4IC4&s=ilq WKu1O_RsiHWQhC3_CUaM1_6Xj4Tz1gSnnWZa5s4A&e=
As I don't have a very long history with the GNSO, I am wondering if the GNSO has been involved in any way? Do DNS-related topics fall within the remit of the GNSO?
Julf
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Thanks for the information, Amr, Donna and Volker, My question is really about scope - should GNSO somehow be involved / consulted in "domain name industry" outreach projects, or is GNSO purely focused on the policies for the actual running of the DNS (rather than the industry based on it)? Julf On 20/11/15 20:44, Amr Elsadr wrote:
Hi,
The DNS-EC was created as part of ICANN’s regional strategy for the Middle East and Adjoining Countries (MEAC), however, it is meant to serve the MEAC as well as Africa. Although the GNSO Council has not had any input to this centre, there are members of the GNSO community who have been involved with it in their individual capacities.
As Donna noted, Baher would be an ideal person to provide more information on this centre. Manal Ismail, the Egyptian representative on the GAC is also very involved in the setup of this initiative, and can provide insight. I’m certain either one of them would gladly answer any questions folks may have.
Some info on the DNS-EC is also available on it website: http://dns-ec.eg.
Thanks.
Amr
On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:51 PM, Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@neustar.biz> wrote:
Hi Julf
I don't believe the Council has had any direct involvement in the development of the Center. My understanding is that this is an initiative led by Baher Esmat who is part of ICANN's Global Stakeholder Engagement Team, and responsible for the Middle East. Marika or Mary could probably confirm.
Considerable work has been done in the region by Baher and his team. More information is available at: https://community.icann.org/display/MES/Middle+East+Working+Group
Thanks
Donna
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Volker Greimann Sent: Friday, 20 November 2015 5:29 AM To: GNSO Council List (council@gnso.icann.org) <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] FW: DNS Entrepreneurship Center
Hi Julf,
I am unaware of this initiative and don't recall this ever being on our agenda.
There have been training events organized by ICANN in Egypt recently, but nothing as formalized as this.
Best,
Volker
Am 20.11.2015 um 12:22 schrieb Glen de Saint Géry:
From: Johan Helsingius Resending, as this doesn't seem to have made it the first time around.
On the ICANN blog, there is a news item about the "DNS entrepreneurship center",
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_new s_blog_icann-2Dlaunches-2Dfirst-2Ddns-2Dentrepreneurship-2Dcenter-2Din -2Degypt&d=CwID-g&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56er yGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=6_fW1gwiMyumDoFCBVGDjjOsXYKCkDn8I__twNl4IC4&s=ilq WKu1O_RsiHWQhC3_CUaM1_6Xj4Tz1gSnnWZa5s4A&e=
As I don't have a very long history with the GNSO, I am wondering if the GNSO has been involved in any way? Do DNS-related topics fall within the remit of the GNSO?
Julf
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Hi Julf, My take on this would be that each stakeholder group/constituency within the GNSO needs to work on its own outreach. Often, this involves coordination with ICANN staff including staff from the Regional Stakeholder Engagement teams, among others. However, given that the GNSO is responsible for gTLD policy development, which results in policy recommendations to the ICANN board, I would guess that the scope of the GNSO Council (as the manager of the GNSO’s PDP) in terms of outreach is limited to outreach for the purpose of participation in GNSO working groups, and perhaps outreach to encourage engagement in any public comment periods associated with the GNSO’s ongoing work. My personal thoughts, but I admit, I hadn’t given this much thought before. Thanks. Amr
On Nov 22, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> wrote:
Thanks for the information, Amr, Donna and Volker,
My question is really about scope - should GNSO somehow be involved / consulted in "domain name industry" outreach projects, or is GNSO purely focused on the policies for the actual running of the DNS (rather than the industry based on it)?
Julf
On 20/11/15 20:44, Amr Elsadr wrote:
Hi,
The DNS-EC was created as part of ICANN’s regional strategy for the Middle East and Adjoining Countries (MEAC), however, it is meant to serve the MEAC as well as Africa. Although the GNSO Council has not had any input to this centre, there are members of the GNSO community who have been involved with it in their individual capacities.
As Donna noted, Baher would be an ideal person to provide more information on this centre. Manal Ismail, the Egyptian representative on the GAC is also very involved in the setup of this initiative, and can provide insight. I’m certain either one of them would gladly answer any questions folks may have.
Some info on the DNS-EC is also available on it website: http://dns-ec.eg.
Thanks.
Amr
On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:51 PM, Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@neustar.biz> wrote:
Hi Julf
I don't believe the Council has had any direct involvement in the development of the Center. My understanding is that this is an initiative led by Baher Esmat who is part of ICANN's Global Stakeholder Engagement Team, and responsible for the Middle East. Marika or Mary could probably confirm.
Considerable work has been done in the region by Baher and his team. More information is available at: https://community.icann.org/display/MES/Middle+East+Working+Group
Thanks
Donna
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Volker Greimann Sent: Friday, 20 November 2015 5:29 AM To: GNSO Council List (council@gnso.icann.org) <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] FW: DNS Entrepreneurship Center
Hi Julf,
I am unaware of this initiative and don't recall this ever being on our agenda.
There have been training events organized by ICANN in Egypt recently, but nothing as formalized as this.
Best,
Volker
Am 20.11.2015 um 12:22 schrieb Glen de Saint Géry:
From: Johan Helsingius Resending, as this doesn't seem to have made it the first time around.
On the ICANN blog, there is a news item about the "DNS entrepreneurship center",
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_new s_blog_icann-2Dlaunches-2Dfirst-2Ddns-2Dentrepreneurship-2Dcenter-2Din -2Degypt&d=CwID-g&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56er yGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=6_fW1gwiMyumDoFCBVGDjjOsXYKCkDn8I__twNl4IC4&s=ilq WKu1O_RsiHWQhC3_CUaM1_6Xj4Tz1gSnnWZa5s4A&e=
As I don't have a very long history with the GNSO, I am wondering if the GNSO has been involved in any way? Do DNS-related topics fall within the remit of the GNSO?
Julf
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Hi, Amr,
My take on this would be that each stakeholder group/constituency within the GNSO needs to work on its own outreach.
I think I agree - but my concern is not so much with the outreach effort GNSO wants to do, but more with outreach efforts that touch on the GNSO areas of responsibility but are not coordinated with the GNSO. It seems GAC has developed guidelines for coordination with the global stakeholder engagement team, but I am not aware of any similar arrangement between the GNSO and GSE. I guess my problem is really a typical example of the challenges in navigating the many-headed hydra of the ICANN organisation. Am I correct in assuming the GSE is a pure staff function reporting to the CEO? My basic issue is with the somewhat schizophrenic role of ICANN in developing and maintaining policies enabling the smooth operation of the network on one hand, and acting as a trade organisation and lobbyist on the other hand. Thus my question actually becomes "who actually controls and decides what domain name industry-affecting activities ICANN should be involved in"? I suspect the answer is "ultimately the board, through the CEO", but is there any operational-level guidance beyond that? "Not a concern for the GNSO" could of course also be a valid answer... Julf
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