Re: [council] FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019
Dear Councilors, Per Keith’s email, staff has made just a couple of edits to try and integrate concerns raised during that call and as summarized by Keith. The updates are limited to page 3 and include: Removing the paragraph that highlighted the possibility of new policy recommendations superseding the original recommendations 1-4 Added bullet (iii) under Deliverables and Reporting, which seeks to ensure that the recommendation(s) are technically implementable. If you have any additional comments or suggested edits, please submit them by 22:00 UTC on Tuesday, 1 October, as noted by Keith. Best, Steve From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of "Drazek, Keith via council" <council@gnso.icann.org> Reply-To: "Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek@verisign.com> Date: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:32 AM To: "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [council] FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019 Hi all, Following up our Council discussion last Thursday, if anyone has further comments or suggested edits to the draft RPM Charter addendum, please send them to the list by 22:00 UTC on Tuesday, 1 October. To summarize comments to date, during the Council call, we agreed to remove or significantly amend the paragraph referencing Recs 1-4, and to include language suggested by Maxim related to expertise of participants. As discussed, this draft has been available for review and comment since 9 September, and we need to move it forward. Our target is to have this addendum ready for Council approval in Montreal, so your timely attention is appreciated. Once we have a stable draft, I will share it with GAC leadership and IGOs to seek preliminary feedback prior to our 24 October Council meeting. Best, Keith From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 8:58 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] [council] FOR DISCUSSION ONLY: Draft Addendum to RPM Charter SENT ON BEHALF OF PAUL MCGRADY Dear Councilors, On behalf of Paul McGrady, who led the small team effort along with Martin Silva Valent and Elsa Saad to develop a draft amendment to the current Review of All Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group Charter, please find attached a proposed draft Addendum to the RPM Charter for your review and discussion on the upcoming Council call. The document has also been reviewed by Petter Rindforth, the Chair of the IGO-INGO Curative Rights PDP Working Group. You will see some comments and yellow-highlighted text of some provisions that the Council may wish to discuss. Based on the small team’s understanding and the informal discussion that was held in Marrakech between several GNSO Councilors, GAC and IGO representatives, this draft document will also be sent to GAC leadership for their feedback, with the expectation that a final version can be voted on by the GNSO Council by/in Montreal. Thanks and cheers Mary & Steve (on behalf of Paul)
Thanks a lot Steve! Could we kindly be sent the draft in Word Doc in order to add comments in a red lined version? E. -- On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:01 PM Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Councilors,
Per Keith’s email, staff has made just a couple of edits to try and integrate concerns raised during that call and as summarized by Keith. The updates are limited to page 3 and include:
- Removing the paragraph that highlighted the possibility of new policy recommendations superseding the original recommendations 1-4 - Added bullet (iii) under Deliverables and Reporting, which seeks to ensure that the recommendation(s) are technically implementable.
If you have any additional comments or suggested edits, please submit them by *22:00 UTC on Tuesday, 1 October*, as noted by Keith.
Best,
Steve
*From: *council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of "Drazek, Keith via council" <council@gnso.icann.org> *Reply-To: *"Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek@verisign.com> *Date: *Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:32 AM *To: *"council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org> *Cc: *"gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> *Subject: *[council] FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019
Hi all,
Following up our Council discussion last Thursday, if anyone has further comments or suggested edits to the draft RPM Charter addendum, please send them to the list by 22:00 UTC on Tuesday, 1 October.
To summarize comments to date, during the Council call, we agreed to remove or significantly amend the paragraph referencing Recs 1-4, and to include language suggested by Maxim related to expertise of participants.
As discussed, this draft has been available for review and comment since 9 September, and we need to move it forward. Our target is to have this addendum ready for Council approval in Montreal, so your timely attention is appreciated.
Once we have a stable draft, I will share it with GAC leadership and IGOs to seek preliminary feedback prior to our 24 October Council meeting.
Best,
Keith
*From:* council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Mary Wong *Sent:* Monday, September 09, 2019 8:58 PM *To:* council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [council] FOR DISCUSSION ONLY: Draft Addendum to RPM Charter
SENT ON BEHALF OF PAUL MCGRADY
Dear Councilors,
On behalf of Paul McGrady, who led the small team effort along with Martin Silva Valent and Elsa Saad to develop a draft amendment to the current Review of All Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group Charter, please find attached a proposed draft Addendum to the RPM Charter for your review and discussion on the upcoming Council call. The document has also been reviewed by Petter Rindforth, the Chair of the IGO-INGO Curative Rights PDP Working Group. You will see some comments and yellow-highlighted text of some provisions that the Council may wish to discuss.
Based on the small team’s understanding and the informal discussion that was held in Marrakech between several GNSO Councilors, GAC and IGO representatives, this draft document will also be sent to GAC leadership for their feedback, with the expectation that a final version can be voted on by the GNSO Council by/in Montreal.
Thanks and cheers
Mary & Steve (on behalf of Paul) _______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council
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Hi Elsa, all, Sure, attached now. Best, Steve From: Elsa S <elsa.saade@gmail.com> Date: Monday, September 30, 2019 at 11:09 AM To: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> Cc: "Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek@verisign.com>, "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org>, "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [council] FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019 Thanks a lot Steve! Could we kindly be sent the draft in Word Doc in order to add comments in a red lined version? E. -- On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:01 PM Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> wrote: Dear Councilors, Per Keith’s email, staff has made just a couple of edits to try and integrate concerns raised during that call and as summarized by Keith. The updates are limited to page 3 and include: Removing the paragraph that highlighted the possibility of new policy recommendations superseding the original recommendations 1-4 Added bullet (iii) under Deliverables and Reporting, which seeks to ensure that the recommendation(s) are technically implementable. If you have any additional comments or suggested edits, please submit them by 22:00 UTC on Tuesday, 1 October, as noted by Keith. Best, Steve From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of "Drazek, Keith via council" <council@gnso.icann.org> Reply-To: "Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek@verisign.com> Date: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:32 AM To: "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [council] FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019 Hi all, Following up our Council discussion last Thursday, if anyone has further comments or suggested edits to the draft RPM Charter addendum, please send them to the list by 22:00 UTC on Tuesday, 1 October. To summarize comments to date, during the Council call, we agreed to remove or significantly amend the paragraph referencing Recs 1-4, and to include language suggested by Maxim related to expertise of participants. As discussed, this draft has been available for review and comment since 9 September, and we need to move it forward. Our target is to have this addendum ready for Council approval in Montreal, so your timely attention is appreciated. Once we have a stable draft, I will share it with GAC leadership and IGOs to seek preliminary feedback prior to our 24 October Council meeting. Best, Keith From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 8:58 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] [council] FOR DISCUSSION ONLY: Draft Addendum to RPM Charter SENT ON BEHALF OF PAUL MCGRADY Dear Councilors, On behalf of Paul McGrady, who led the small team effort along with Martin Silva Valent and Elsa Saad to develop a draft amendment to the current Review of All Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group Charter, please find attached a proposed draft Addendum to the RPM Charter for your review and discussion on the upcoming Council call. The document has also been reviewed by Petter Rindforth, the Chair of the IGO-INGO Curative Rights PDP Working Group. You will see some comments and yellow-highlighted text of some provisions that the Council may wish to discuss. Based on the small team’s understanding and the informal discussion that was held in Marrakech between several GNSO Councilors, GAC and IGO representatives, this draft document will also be sent to GAC leadership for their feedback, with the expectation that a final version can be voted on by the GNSO Council by/in Montreal. Thanks and cheers Mary & Steve (on behalf of Paul) _______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy [icann.org]) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos [icann.org]). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. -- -- Elsa Saade Consultant Gulf Centre for Human Rights Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
Hi Steve, Thanks for the new version. I am sharing some comments: - under section 4 ,"(i) The IGO Work Track must publish its initial recommendations for public comment prior to delivering its final recommendations to the full RPM Working Group;", it seems that RPM WG won't get the initial report and only have a say for final recommendations. When reading the points iv to vii, the RPM WG doesn't seems be able to have any substantial influence. I am not sure that aligned with how WT5 is functioning or supposed to. - for reporting, I think the IGO track chair is accountable to GNSO council regarding the reporting. They can interact with other SO/AC and their leadership if necessary but we need to be clear to whom they are are supposed to report and respond in first place. this track is not a CCWG. I ask to remove that part. - for membership, it seems with the current wording "Up to 2 Members from each interested SO and AC. Up to 2 Members appointed by and representing IGOs." that GAC will be represented twice. By the recurring engagement with GAC, we can understand this narrow topic interest mainly IGO who are members/observers in the GAC. I suggest that GAC only get to appoint up to 2 reps and from IGO. Best, Rafik Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 03:51, Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> a écrit :
Hi Elsa, all,
Sure, attached now.
Best,
Steve
*From: *Elsa S <elsa.saade@gmail.com> *Date: *Monday, September 30, 2019 at 11:09 AM *To: *Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> *Cc: *"Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek@verisign.com>, "council@gnso.icann.org" < council@gnso.icann.org>, "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [council] FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019
Thanks a lot Steve! Could we kindly be sent the draft in Word Doc in order to add comments in a red lined version?
E.
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On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:01 PM Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Councilors,
Per Keith’s email, staff has made just a couple of edits to try and integrate concerns raised during that call and as summarized by Keith. The updates are limited to page 3 and include:
- Removing the paragraph that highlighted the possibility of new policy recommendations superseding the original recommendations 1-4 - Added bullet (iii) under Deliverables and Reporting, which seeks to ensure that the recommendation(s) are technically implementable.
If you have any additional comments or suggested edits, please submit them by *22:00 UTC on Tuesday, 1 October*, as noted by Keith.
Best,
Steve
*From: *council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of "Drazek, Keith via council" <council@gnso.icann.org> *Reply-To: *"Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek@verisign.com> *Date: *Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:32 AM *To: *"council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org> *Cc: *"gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> *Subject: *[council] FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019
Hi all,
Following up our Council discussion last Thursday, if anyone has further comments or suggested edits to the draft RPM Charter addendum, please send them to the list by 22:00 UTC on Tuesday, 1 October.
To summarize comments to date, during the Council call, we agreed to remove or significantly amend the paragraph referencing Recs 1-4, and to include language suggested by Maxim related to expertise of participants.
As discussed, this draft has been available for review and comment since 9 September, and we need to move it forward. Our target is to have this addendum ready for Council approval in Montreal, so your timely attention is appreciated.
Once we have a stable draft, I will share it with GAC leadership and IGOs to seek preliminary feedback prior to our 24 October Council meeting.
Best,
Keith
*From:* council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Mary Wong *Sent:* Monday, September 09, 2019 8:58 PM *To:* council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [council] FOR DISCUSSION ONLY: Draft Addendum to RPM Charter
SENT ON BEHALF OF PAUL MCGRADY
Dear Councilors,
On behalf of Paul McGrady, who led the small team effort along with Martin Silva Valent and Elsa Saad to develop a draft amendment to the current Review of All Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group Charter, please find attached a proposed draft Addendum to the RPM Charter for your review and discussion on the upcoming Council call. The document has also been reviewed by Petter Rindforth, the Chair of the IGO-INGO Curative Rights PDP Working Group. You will see some comments and yellow-highlighted text of some provisions that the Council may wish to discuss.
Based on the small team’s understanding and the informal discussion that was held in Marrakech between several GNSO Councilors, GAC and IGO representatives, this draft document will also be sent to GAC leadership for their feedback, with the expectation that a final version can be voted on by the GNSO Council by/in Montreal.
Thanks and cheers
Mary & Steve (on behalf of Paul)
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Thanks Rafik, I guess I read “public comment” to include all of the public which by its nature brings in the members of the full RPM WG. My concern about baking in a step of formally presenting a draft report to the WG for comment is that will cause a 3-6 month delay and could disrupt the workflow of what will very likely be Phase 2 by then. Are you envisioning a formal delivery and wait for comments before the initial report back be published, or more of an FYI/heads up with no delay baked in? Best, Paul This message may contain information that is attorney-client privileged, attorney work product or otherwise confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, use and disclosure of this message are prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Rafik Dammak Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 10:34 PM To: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] [Ext] Re: FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019 Hi Steve, Thanks for the new version. I am sharing some comments: * under section 4 ,"(i) The IGO Work Track must publish its initial recommendations for public comment prior to delivering its final recommendations to the full RPM Working Group;", it seems that RPM WG won't get the initial report and only have a say for final recommendations. When reading the points iv to vii, the RPM WG doesn't seems be able to have any substantial influence. I am not sure that aligned with how WT5 is functioning or supposed to. * for reporting, I think the IGO track chair is accountable to GNSO council regarding the reporting. They can interact with other SO/AC and their leadership if necessary but we need to be clear to whom they are are supposed to report and respond in first place. this track is not a CCWG. I ask to remove that part. * for membership, it seems with the current wording "Up to 2 Members from each interested SO and AC. Up to 2 Members appointed by and representing IGOs." that GAC will be represented twice. By the recurring engagement with GAC, we can understand this narrow topic interest mainly IGO who are members/observers in the GAC. I suggest that GAC only get to appoint up to 2 reps and from IGO. Best, Rafik Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 03:51, Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> a écrit : Hi Elsa, all, Sure, attached now. Best, Steve From: Elsa S <elsa.saade@gmail.com<mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com>> Date: Monday, September 30, 2019 at 11:09 AM To: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> Cc: "Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek@verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>>, "council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>" <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>>, "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] Re: [council] FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019 Thanks a lot Steve! Could we kindly be sent the draft in Word Doc in order to add comments in a red lined version? E. -- On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:01 PM Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> wrote: Dear Councilors, Per Keith’s email, staff has made just a couple of edits to try and integrate concerns raised during that call and as summarized by Keith. The updates are limited to page 3 and include: * Removing the paragraph that highlighted the possibility of new policy recommendations superseding the original recommendations 1-4 * Added bullet (iii) under Deliverables and Reporting, which seeks to ensure that the recommendation(s) are technically implementable. If you have any additional comments or suggested edits, please submit them by 22:00 UTC on Tuesday, 1 October, as noted by Keith. Best, Steve From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of "Drazek, Keith via council" <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Reply-To: "Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek@verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>> Date: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:32 AM To: "council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>" <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [council] FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019 Hi all, Following up our Council discussion last Thursday, if anyone has further comments or suggested edits to the draft RPM Charter addendum, please send them to the list by 22:00 UTC on Tuesday, 1 October. To summarize comments to date, during the Council call, we agreed to remove or significantly amend the paragraph referencing Recs 1-4, and to include language suggested by Maxim related to expertise of participants. As discussed, this draft has been available for review and comment since 9 September, and we need to move it forward. Our target is to have this addendum ready for Council approval in Montreal, so your timely attention is appreciated. Once we have a stable draft, I will share it with GAC leadership and IGOs to seek preliminary feedback prior to our 24 October Council meeting. Best, Keith From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 8:58 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [council] FOR DISCUSSION ONLY: Draft Addendum to RPM Charter SENT ON BEHALF OF PAUL MCGRADY Dear Councilors, On behalf of Paul McGrady, who led the small team effort along with Martin Silva Valent and Elsa Saad to develop a draft amendment to the current Review of All Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group Charter, please find attached a proposed draft Addendum to the RPM Charter for your review and discussion on the upcoming Council call. The document has also been reviewed by Petter Rindforth, the Chair of the IGO-INGO Curative Rights PDP Working Group. You will see some comments and yellow-highlighted text of some provisions that the Council may wish to discuss. Based on the small team’s understanding and the informal discussion that was held in Marrakech between several GNSO Councilors, GAC and IGO representatives, this draft document will also be sent to GAC leadership for their feedback, with the expectation that a final version can be voted on by the GNSO Council by/in Montreal. Thanks and cheers Mary & Steve (on behalf of Paul) _______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy [icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_policy&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=7f-2USvJzCBRR-62D2IN-gM3uVjXITvjWvcRVNZUv2k&s=hKTg28x82_pn5sWBmizALwzr06ASyP9GsNuHQveZuuQ&e=>) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos [icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_tos&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=7f-2USvJzCBRR-62D2IN-gM3uVjXITvjWvcRVNZUv2k&s=b2h23O217wtuYO4YrttNSwAwBkwsj4rrtGhmpLa6Zgk&e=>). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. -- -- Elsa Saade Consultant Gulf Centre for Human Rights Twitter: @Elsa_Saade _______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Hi Paul, thanks for the clarification, to avoid any disturbance, I think we can add a deadline for the RPM WG to review and give input but it is not to necessarily get an approval (no more than X weeks for example) after that RPM WG can still submit at the public comments consultation like any group . I guess one way to alleviate any risk of delay is that the track should keep reasonably the RPM WG up to date about the deliberations so recommendations won't come as surprise. Best, Rafik Le jeu. 3 oct. 2019 à 03:13, McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> a écrit :
Thanks Rafik,
I guess I read “public comment” to include all of the public which by its nature brings in the members of the full RPM WG. My concern about baking in a step of formally presenting a draft report to the WG for comment is that will cause a 3-6 month delay and could disrupt the workflow of what will very likely be Phase 2 by then. Are you envisioning a formal delivery and wait for comments before the initial report back be published, or more of an FYI/heads up with no delay baked in?
Best,
Paul
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*From:* council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Rafik Dammak *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2019 10:34 PM *To:* Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> *Cc:* gnso-secs@icann.org; council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* Re: [council] [Ext] Re: FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019
Hi Steve,
Thanks for the new version.
I am sharing some comments:
- under section 4 ,"(i) The IGO Work Track must publish its initial recommendations for public comment prior to delivering its final recommendations to the full RPM Working Group;", it seems that RPM WG won't get the initial report and only have a say for final recommendations. When reading the points iv to vii, the RPM WG doesn't seems be able to have any substantial influence. I am not sure that aligned with how WT5 is functioning or supposed to. - for reporting, I think the IGO track chair is accountable to GNSO council regarding the reporting. They can interact with other SO/AC and their leadership if necessary but we need to be clear to whom they are are supposed to report and respond in first place. this track is not a CCWG. I ask to remove that part. - for membership, it seems with the current wording "Up to 2 Members from each interested SO and AC. Up to 2 Members appointed by and representing IGOs." that GAC will be represented twice. By the recurring engagement with GAC, we can understand this narrow topic interest mainly IGO who are members/observers in the GAC. I suggest that GAC only get to appoint up to 2 reps and from IGO.
Best,
Rafik
Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 03:51, Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> a écrit :
Hi Elsa, all,
Sure, attached now.
Best,
Steve
*From: *Elsa S <elsa.saade@gmail.com> *Date: *Monday, September 30, 2019 at 11:09 AM *To: *Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> *Cc: *"Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek@verisign.com>, "council@gnso.icann.org" < council@gnso.icann.org>, "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [council] FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019
Thanks a lot Steve! Could we kindly be sent the draft in Word Doc in order to add comments in a red lined version?
E.
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On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:01 PM Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Councilors,
Per Keith’s email, staff has made just a couple of edits to try and integrate concerns raised during that call and as summarized by Keith. The updates are limited to page 3 and include:
- Removing the paragraph that highlighted the possibility of new policy recommendations superseding the original recommendations 1-4 - Added bullet (iii) under Deliverables and Reporting, which seeks to ensure that the recommendation(s) are technically implementable.
If you have any additional comments or suggested edits, please submit them by *22:00 UTC on Tuesday, 1 October*, as noted by Keith.
Best,
Steve
*From: *council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of "Drazek, Keith via council" <council@gnso.icann.org> *Reply-To: *"Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek@verisign.com> *Date: *Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:32 AM *To: *"council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org> *Cc: *"gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> *Subject: *[council] FINAL COMMENT REQUEST -- Draft RPM Charter Addendum -- Deadline of 22:00 UTC 1 October 2019
Hi all,
Following up our Council discussion last Thursday, if anyone has further comments or suggested edits to the draft RPM Charter addendum, please send them to the list by 22:00 UTC on Tuesday, 1 October.
To summarize comments to date, during the Council call, we agreed to remove or significantly amend the paragraph referencing Recs 1-4, and to include language suggested by Maxim related to expertise of participants.
As discussed, this draft has been available for review and comment since 9 September, and we need to move it forward. Our target is to have this addendum ready for Council approval in Montreal, so your timely attention is appreciated.
Once we have a stable draft, I will share it with GAC leadership and IGOs to seek preliminary feedback prior to our 24 October Council meeting.
Best,
Keith
*From:* council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Mary Wong *Sent:* Monday, September 09, 2019 8:58 PM *To:* council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [council] FOR DISCUSSION ONLY: Draft Addendum to RPM Charter
SENT ON BEHALF OF PAUL MCGRADY
Dear Councilors,
On behalf of Paul McGrady, who led the small team effort along with Martin Silva Valent and Elsa Saad to develop a draft amendment to the current Review of All Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group Charter, please find attached a proposed draft Addendum to the RPM Charter for your review and discussion on the upcoming Council call. The document has also been reviewed by Petter Rindforth, the Chair of the IGO-INGO Curative Rights PDP Working Group. You will see some comments and yellow-highlighted text of some provisions that the Council may wish to discuss.
Based on the small team’s understanding and the informal discussion that was held in Marrakech between several GNSO Councilors, GAC and IGO representatives, this draft document will also be sent to GAC leadership for their feedback, with the expectation that a final version can be voted on by the GNSO Council by/in Montreal.
Thanks and cheers
Mary & Steve (on behalf of Paul)
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