Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list
Does anyone object to adding the incoming Councilors to the Council list before they are actually seated? In my opinion, it would facilitate the transition process. I don't think our procedures cover this one way or the other. If anyone objects, please say so on the list before our meeting this week. If not, I suggest we ask Glen to add the new Councilors on Thursday. Chuck
Chuck, I think it is a good idea. regards Olga 2010/11/16 Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com>
Does anyone object to adding the incoming Councilors to the Council list before they are actually seated? In my opinion, it would facilitate the transition process. I don’t think our procedures cover this one way or the other.
If anyone objects, please say so on the list before our meeting this week. If not, I suggest we ask Glen to add the new Councilors on Thursday.
Chuck
Can't they view the public archive like everyone else? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:49 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Does anyone object to adding the incoming Councilors to the Council list before they are actually seated? In my opinion, it would facilitate the transition process. I don't think our procedures cover this one way or the other. If anyone objects, please say so on the list before our meeting this week. If not, I suggest we ask Glen to add the new Councilors on Thursday. Chuck
Yes they can. Do you object to adding them to the Council list early? Chuck From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:39 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Can't they view the public archive like everyone else? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:49 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Does anyone object to adding the incoming Councilors to the Council list before they are actually seated? In my opinion, it would facilitate the transition process. I don't think our procedures cover this one way or the other. If anyone objects, please say so on the list before our meeting this week. If not, I suggest we ask Glen to add the new Councilors on Thursday. Chuck
Yes. I object. Adrian Kinderis Chief Executive Officer AusRegistry International Pty Ltd Level 8, 10 Queens Road Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004 Ph: +61 3 9866 3710 Fax: +61 3 9866 1970 Email: adrian@ausregistry.com<mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com> Web: www.ausregistry.com<http://www.ausregistryinternational.com/> - Follow AusRegistry International on Twitter: www.twitter.com/ausregistryint<http://www.twitter.com/ausregistryint> The information contained in this communication is intended for the named recipients only. It is subject to copyright and may contain legally privileged and confidential information and if you are not an intended recipient you must not use, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all copies from your system and notify us immediately. From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:07 AM To: Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Yes they can. Do you object to adding them to the Council list early? Chuck From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:39 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Can't they view the public archive like everyone else? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:49 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Does anyone object to adding the incoming Councilors to the Council list before they are actually seated? In my opinion, it would facilitate the transition process. I don't think our procedures cover this one way or the other. If anyone objects, please say so on the list before our meeting this week. If not, I suggest we ask Glen to add the new Councilors on Thursday. Chuck
Okay. Not that it matters but I would be curious to know why if you are willing to say. Chuck From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:08 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Yes. I object. Adrian Kinderis Chief Executive Officer AusRegistry International Pty Ltd Level 8, 10 Queens Road Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004 Ph: +61 3 9866 3710 Fax: +61 3 9866 1970 Email: adrian@ausregistry.com Web: www.ausregistry.com <http://www.ausregistryinternational.com/> - Follow AusRegistry International on Twitter: www.twitter.com/ausregistryint <http://www.twitter.com/ausregistryint> The information contained in this communication is intended for the named recipients only. It is subject to copyright and may contain legally privileged and confidential information and if you are not an intended recipient you must not use, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all copies from your system and notify us immediately. From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:07 AM To: Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Yes they can. Do you object to adding them to the Council list early? Chuck From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:39 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Can't they view the public archive like everyone else? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:49 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Does anyone object to adding the incoming Councilors to the Council list before they are actually seated? In my opinion, it would facilitate the transition process. I don't think our procedures cover this one way or the other. If anyone objects, please say so on the list before our meeting this week. If not, I suggest we ask Glen to add the new Councilors on Thursday. Chuck
They already have a mechanism for "getting up to speed". Adrian Kinderis From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:11 AM To: Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Okay. Not that it matters but I would be curious to know why if you are willing to say. Chuck From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:08 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Yes. I object. Adrian Kinderis Chief Executive Officer AusRegistry International Pty Ltd Level 8, 10 Queens Road Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004 Ph: +61 3 9866 3710 Fax: +61 3 9866 1970 Email: adrian@ausregistry.com<mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com> Web: www.ausregistry.com<http://www.ausregistryinternational.com/> - Follow AusRegistry International on Twitter: www.twitter.com/ausregistryint<http://www.twitter.com/ausregistryint> The information contained in this communication is intended for the named recipients only. It is subject to copyright and may contain legally privileged and confidential information and if you are not an intended recipient you must not use, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all copies from your system and notify us immediately. From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:07 AM To: Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Yes they can. Do you object to adding them to the Council list early? Chuck From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:39 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Can't they view the public archive like everyone else? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:49 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Does anyone object to adding the incoming Councilors to the Council list before they are actually seated? In my opinion, it would facilitate the transition process. I don't think our procedures cover this one way or the other. If anyone objects, please say so on the list before our meeting this week. If not, I suggest we ask Glen to add the new Councilors on Thursday. Chuck
Adrian, Everyone else? Do you are refer to the well informed and most interested in ICANN matters? Very few indeed! And unfortunately the most interested and informed are hardly the most affected. This is a very peculiar way to be open and transparent. Jaime Wagner jaime@powerself.com.br Direto (51) 3219-5955 Cel (51) 8126-0916 Geral (51) 3233-3551 DDG: 0800-703-6366 <http://www.powerself.com.br/> www.powerself.com.br De: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Em nome de Adrian Kinderis Enviada em: terça-feira, 16 de novembro de 2010 22:13 Para: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Assunto: [council] RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list They already have a mechanism for getting up to speed. Adrian Kinderis From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:11 AM To: Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Okay. Not that it matters but I would be curious to know why if you are willing to say. Chuck From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:08 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Yes. I object. Adrian Kinderis Chief Executive Officer AusRegistry International Pty Ltd Level 8, 10 Queens Road Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004 Ph: +61 3 9866 3710 Fax: +61 3 9866 1970 Email: adrian@ausregistry.com Web: www.ausregistry.com <http://www.ausregistryinternational.com/> - Follow AusRegistry International on Twitter: <http://www.twitter.com/ausregistryint> www.twitter.com/ausregistryint The information contained in this communication is intended for the named recipients only. It is subject to copyright and may contain legally privileged and confidential information and if you are not an intended recipient you must not use, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all copies from your system and notify us immediately. From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:07 AM To: Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Yes they can. Do you object to adding them to the Council list early? Chuck From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:39 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Cant they view the public archive like everyone else? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:49 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Does anyone object to adding the incoming Councilors to the Council list before they are actually seated? In my opinion, it would facilitate the transition process. I dont think our procedures cover this one way or the other. If anyone objects, please say so on the list before our meeting this week. If not, I suggest we ask Glen to add the new Councilors on Thursday. Chuck
Sorry Jamie I have no idea what your point is? They can already see every email! Sent from my iPhone On 17/11/2010, at 13:36, "Jaime Wagner - PowerSelf" <jaime@powerself.com.br<mailto:jaime@powerself.com.br>> wrote: Adrian, “Everyone else”? Do you are refer to the well informed and most interested in ICANN matters? Very few indeed! And unfortunately the most interested and informed are hardly the most affected. This is a very peculiar way to be open and transparent. Jaime Wagner <mailto:jaime@powerself.com.br>jaime@powerself.com.br<mailto:jaime@powerself.com.br> Direto (51) 3219-5955 Cel (51) 8126-0916 Geral (51) 3233-3551 DDG: 0800-703-6366 www.powerself.com.br<http://www.powerself.com.br/> De: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Em nome de Adrian Kinderis Enviada em: terça-feira, 16 de novembro de 2010 22:13 Para: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Assunto: [council] RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list They already have a mechanism for “getting up to speed”. Adrian Kinderis From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:11 AM To: Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Okay. Not that it matters but I would be curious to know why if you are willing to say. Chuck From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:08 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Yes. I object. Adrian Kinderis Chief Executive Officer AusRegistry International Pty Ltd Level 8, 10 Queens Road Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004 Ph: +61 3 9866 3710 Fax: +61 3 9866 1970 Email: <mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com> adrian@ausregistry.com<mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com> Web: <http://www.ausregistryinternational.com/> www.ausregistry.com<http://www.ausregistry.com> - Follow AusRegistry International on Twitter: www.twitter.com/ausregistryint<http://www.twitter.com/ausregistryint> The information contained in this communication is intended for the named recipients only. It is subject to copyright and may contain legally privileged and confidential information and if you are not an intended recipient you must not use, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all copies from your system and notify us immediately. From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:07 AM To: Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Yes they can. Do you object to adding them to the Council list early? Chuck From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:39 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Can’t they view the public archive like everyone else? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:49 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Does anyone object to adding the incoming Councilors to the Council list before they are actually seated? In my opinion, it would facilitate the transition process. I don’t think our procedures cover this one way or the other. If anyone objects, please say so on the list before our meeting this week. If not, I suggest we ask Glen to add the new Councilors on Thursday. Chuck
Adrian, can you clarify your point? because your last response is not convincing at all. @Chuck last year, new councillors was added without being granted posting permissions and it helped a lot , I don't see any reason preventing the addition of new councillors to the list this year. Rafik 2010/11/17 Adrian Kinderis <adrian@ausregistry.com.au>
They already have a mechanism for “getting up to speed”.
*Adrian Kinderis*
*From:* Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:11 AM
*To:* Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO *Subject:* RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list
Okay. Not that it matters but I would be curious to know why if you are willing to say.
Chuck
*From:* Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:08 PM *To:* Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO *Subject:* RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list
Yes. I object.
*Adrian Kinderis* Chief Executive Officer
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*From:* Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:07 AM *To:* Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO *Subject:* RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list
Yes they can. Do you object to adding them to the Council list early?
Chuck
*From:* Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:39 PM *To:* Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO *Subject:* RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list
Can’t they view the public archive like everyone else?
*Adrian Kinderis*
*From:* owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Gomes, Chuck *Sent:* Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:49 AM *To:* Council GNSO *Subject:* [council] Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list
Does anyone object to adding the incoming Councilors to the Council list before they are actually seated? In my opinion, it would facilitate the transition process. I don’t think our procedures cover this one way or the other.
If anyone objects, please say so on the list before our meeting this week. If not, I suggest we ask Glen to add the new Councilors on Thursday.
Chuck
It is really simple. Anyone with internet access and a browser can access the GNSO Archives and read every single email posted to the list. It therefore seems silly, to me at least, to have to create another avenue for this ‘reason’. If there is another reason I am happy to hear it. Apart from that I continue to object. That said, this is such a minuscule issue. If it causes headaches feel free to move on and create more work for someone. Thanks. Adrian Kinderis From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2010 2:05 PM To: Adrian Kinderis Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Adrian, can you clarify your point? because your last response is not convincing at all. @Chuck last year, new councillors was added without being granted posting permissions and it helped a lot , I don't see any reason preventing the addition of new councillors to the list this year. Rafik 2010/11/17 Adrian Kinderis <adrian@ausregistry.com.au<mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au>> They already have a mechanism for “getting up to speed”. Adrian Kinderis From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:11 AM To: Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Okay. Not that it matters but I would be curious to know why if you are willing to say. Chuck From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au<mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au>] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:08 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Yes. I object. Adrian Kinderis Chief Executive Officer AusRegistry International Pty Ltd Level 8, 10 Queens Road Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004 Ph: +61 3 9866 3710 Fax: +61 3 9866 1970 Email: adrian@ausregistry.com<mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com> Web: www.ausregistry.com<http://www.ausregistryinternational.com/> - Follow AusRegistry International on Twitter: www.twitter.com/ausregistryint<http://www.twitter.com/ausregistryint> The information contained in this communication is intended for the named recipients only. It is subject to copyright and may contain legally privileged and confidential information and if you are not an intended recipient you must not use, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all copies from your system and notify us immediately. From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:07 AM To: Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Yes they can. Do you object to adding them to the Council list early? Chuck From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au<mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au>] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:39 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Can’t they view the public archive like everyone else? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org>] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:49 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Does anyone object to adding the incoming Councilors to the Council list before they are actually seated? In my opinion, it would facilitate the transition process. I don’t think our procedures cover this one way or the other. If anyone objects, please say so on the list before our meeting this week. If not, I suggest we ask Glen to add the new Councilors on Thursday. Chuck
It therefore seems silly, to me at least, to have to create another avenue for this ‘reason’.
I think that there is indeed silliness but I tend to think that you are mistaking from which side it is ;).
If there is another reason I am happy to hear it.
mmm, maybe showing good will to cooperate with new councilor?
Apart from that I continue to object.
That said, this is such a minuscule issue. If it causes headaches feel free to move on and create more work for someone.
indeed, it is minuscule, in fact it is not an issue at all. Glen can grant permissions easily without significant workload, but dear colleague, you replied to thread 5 times (and I can presumably expect another reply), even from you iphone, you are undoubtedly autonomous and self-fulfilling in term of workload :) Rafik
Chuck, Olga and I had discussed this in our Council leaders meeting before Chuck submitted the question to the Council list. We all agreed that having new Councillors on the list as observers (i.e. without posting permission as Rafik recalls from last year) is a nice way to transition them into the Council. Plus, as they're observers, there's no harm done. It's a small point and I don't think we should be spending much time on it, but it does seem like a nice way of welcoming people to the Council. Stéphane Le 17 nov. 2010 à 04:05, Rafik Dammak a écrit :
@Chuck last year, new councillors was added without being granted posting permissions and it helped a lot , I don't see any reason preventing the addition of new councillors to the list this year.
I support this. Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Van Gelder Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. November 2010 10:07 An: Council GNSO Betreff: Re: [council] RE: Adding incoming Councilors to the Council list Chuck, Olga and I had discussed this in our Council leaders meeting before Chuck submitted the question to the Council list. We all agreed that having new Councillors on the list as observers (i.e. without posting permission as Rafik recalls from last year) is a nice way to transition them into the Council. Plus, as they're observers, there's no harm done. It's a small point and I don't think we should be spending much time on it, but it does seem like a nice way of welcoming people to the Council. Stéphane Le 17 nov. 2010 à 04:05, Rafik Dammak a écrit :
@Chuck last year, new councillors was added without being granted posting permissions and it helped a lot , I don't see any reason preventing the addition of new councillors to the list this year.
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