RE: URS follow-up
All, I recently forwarded you Olof Nordling's mail below. This follows on from the session where Olof presented to the Council as part of our wrap-up session. As you may recall, I was caught slightly unaware by the requirement to chair the wrap-up session. The discussion on the potential for formation of a drafting team or at least being in a good position to do so has continued on the GNSO Council list to the extent that we now have good indications of interest in the decision and in contributing to the prospective DT. Great. However, I wanted to take this opportunity draw to your attention the fact that the provision of URS services is an area where I have some systems, process and related expertise. Accordingly, I have recently had informal discussions with companies and individuals who may respond to the ICANN RFI on the URS. Since no formal arrangements have been made and indeed, nothing may materialise, I do not believe that there is a current basis to update my SOI. Nevertheless, in the circumstances, I have reservations about chairing Council discussions on the subject. In order to avoid any appearance of a conflict of interest, I propose to ask VC Mason Cole to lead any GNSO Council discussions on this topic, at least until it is clear that I am not involved with or have no future involvement in a response to ICANN's RFI. Best wishes, Jonathan From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org] Sent: 21 October 2012 15:33 To: jonathan.robinson@iprota.com Cc: Kurt Pritz Subject: URS follow-up Dear Jonathan, Congratulations to your recent election as GNSO Council Chair and many thanks to you and to all Council members for the constructive discussions we had on URS matters on 18 October! The willingness to consider a drafting team to address URS implementation questions and issues is much appreciated. The subsequent URS session the same day in Toronto proved most interesting. In addition to presentations from NAF and WIPO as potential URS providers, we had the advantage of a very late addition to the agenda - a presentation from a "new entrant", Intersponsive, intending to respond to the RFI with a proposal within the target fee, although with some adjustments of the URS provisions. Also NAF clarified that they would be able to stay within the target fee, provided reasonable limitations could be established to the current translation requirements and to the number of domain names covered by a single complaint. I realize that you and other Council members couldn't attend this session, as it partially overlapped with the GNSO Council session, but the recording is available at <http://audio.icann.org/meetings/toronto2012/urs-18oct12-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/meetings/toronto2012/urs-18oct12-en.mp3. Furthermore, there are a number of relevant documents posted on our recently established URS web page at <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/urs> http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/urs, notably contributions from NAF, WIPO and CAC, with considerations, proposals, some costing aspects and, most importantly, questions needing to be resolved (the NAF contribution is of particular interest in that regard). I believe these recent developments further clarifies the need for a drafting team to establish realistic implementation measures based on the URS text. I look forward to further contacts with you and the Council on this matter in the near future. Very best regards Olof
Jonathan, Can I request that this topic be added as an agenda item for the Council call in a couple of weeks? Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Robinson Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:48 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Cc: 'Kurt Pritz'; 'Olof Nordling' Subject: [council] RE: URS follow-up All, I recently forwarded you Olof Nordling's mail below. This follows on from the session where Olof presented to the Council as part of our wrap-up session. As you may recall, I was caught slightly unaware by the requirement to chair the wrap-up session. The discussion on the potential for formation of a drafting team or at least being in a good position to do so has continued on the GNSO Council list to the extent that we now have good indications of interest in the decision and in contributing to the prospective DT. Great. However, I wanted to take this opportunity draw to your attention the fact that the provision of URS services is an area where I have some systems, process and related expertise. Accordingly, I have recently had informal discussions with companies and individuals who may respond to the ICANN RFI on the URS. Since no formal arrangements have been made and indeed, nothing may materialise, I do not believe that there is a current basis to update my SOI. Nevertheless, in the circumstances, I have reservations about chairing Council discussions on the subject. In order to avoid any appearance of a conflict of interest, I propose to ask VC Mason Cole to lead any GNSO Council discussions on this topic, at least until it is clear that I am not involved with or have no future involvement in a response to ICANN's RFI. Best wishes, Jonathan From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org] Sent: 21 October 2012 15:33 To: jonathan.robinson@iprota.com<mailto:jonathan.robinson@iprota.com> Cc: Kurt Pritz Subject: URS follow-up Dear Jonathan, Congratulations to your recent election as GNSO Council Chair and many thanks to you and to all Council members for the constructive discussions we had on URS matters on 18 October! The willingness to consider a drafting team to address URS implementation questions and issues is much appreciated. The subsequent URS session the same day in Toronto proved most interesting. In addition to presentations from NAF and WIPO as potential URS providers, we had the advantage of a very late addition to the agenda - a presentation from a "new entrant", Intersponsive, intending to respond to the RFI with a proposal within the target fee, although with some adjustments of the URS provisions. Also NAF clarified that they would be able to stay within the target fee, provided reasonable limitations could be established to the current translation requirements and to the number of domain names covered by a single complaint. I realize that you and other Council members couldn't attend this session, as it partially overlapped with the GNSO Council session, but the recording is available at http://audio.icann.org/meetings/toronto2012/urs-18oct12-en.mp3. Furthermore, there are a number of relevant documents posted on our recently established URS web page at http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/urs, notably contributions from NAF, WIPO and CAC, with considerations, proposals, some costing aspects and, most importantly, questions needing to be resolved (the NAF contribution is of particular interest in that regard). I believe these recent developments further clarifies the need for a drafting team to establish realistic implementation measures based on the URS text. I look forward to further contacts with you and the Council on this matter in the near future. Very best regards Olof
Jonathan, How can you say "the provision of URS services is an area where I have some systems, process and related expertise" when the URS doesn't yet exist? In my view, we can go overboard with regard to conflicts. Even your suggestion of Mason to lead the conversation can be open to criticism. After all, why wouldn't a registry want a high price on the URS? See how it can go? At this point I suggest you keep your seat for this until you prove otherwise! My 2 cents. Berard Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2012, at 1:48 AM, "Jonathan Robinson" <jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com> wrote:
the provision of URS services is an area where I have some systems, process and related expertise.
John, Personally, I tend to agree. There is a possibility of being too sensitive. In any event, the first rule is to at least flag a potential conflict. I have obviously done that. If that raises no significant concerns or issues, I am happy to be guided by other councillors and potentially continue to chair Council discussions on this. That said, the sense I am getting is that we do not want to spend much (if any) time on this whilst the RFI process remains open. Regarding the detail point, good catch, it would have been more accurate to say "... I have systems, process and related expertise which may be useful in the design, development or provision of a URS system ..." Thanks, Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of John Berard Sent: 26 October 2012 17:27 To: Jonathan Robinson Cc: <council@gnso.icann.org>; Kurt Pritz; Olof Nordling Subject: Re: [council] RE: URS follow-up Jonathan, How can you say "the provision of URS services is an area where I have some systems, process and related expertise" when the URS doesn't yet exist? In my view, we can go overboard with regard to conflicts. Even your suggestion of Mason to lead the conversation can be open to criticism. After all, why wouldn't a registry want a high price on the URS? See how it can go? At this point I suggest you keep your seat for this until you prove otherwise! My 2 cents. Berard Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2012, at 1:48 AM, "Jonathan Robinson" <jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com> wrote:
the provision of URS services is an area where I have some systems, process and related expertise.
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