GNSO Council meeting Wednesday 8 September at 15:00UTC
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2ea4dc38144ffb65e02afdad1e1fb194.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Dear Councillors, Just a reminder that it was agreed to change the GNSO Council meeting date in September to Wednesday, 8 September 2010 at 15:00 UTC. Please see the calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#sep Thank you. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/05287bdf54f8047bd4daa7c6c8231136.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
My apologies in advance, I will be unable to join this meeting. If absentee voting is permitted, I vote for Mike Rodenbaugh's motion supporting commencement of work on WHOIS Study 1. Thanks, --Wendy On 08/10/2010 09:20 AM, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
Dear Councillors,
Just a reminder that it was agreed to change the GNSO Council meeting date in September to Wednesday, 8 September 2010 at 15:00 UTC.
Please see the calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#sep
Thank you. Kind regards,
Glen
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
-- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b90048f2bfa1fb043625de7955dfdda6.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Wendy, Absentee voting will not be allowed but I believe the new procedures we approved on 5 August provide a means for the vote to be cast. As stated in our meeting, staff should be distributing a 'cheat sheet' shortly to help Councilors apply the new procedures. Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:04 AM To: Glen de Saint Géry Cc: Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] GNSO Council meeting Wednesday 8 September at 15:00UTC
My apologies in advance, I will be unable to join this meeting.
If absentee voting is permitted, I vote for Mike Rodenbaugh's motion supporting commencement of work on WHOIS Study 1.
Thanks, --Wendy
On 08/10/2010 09:20 AM, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
Dear Councillors,
Just a reminder that it was agreed to change the GNSO Council meeting
date in September to Wednesday, 8 September 2010 at 15:00 UTC.
Please see the calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#sep
Thank you. Kind regards,
Glen
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
-- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/21cfbce914d7e30e5d906dec1a9a4eb8.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
This crib sheet will be very helpful. AFAIK, proxy voting by email ahead of a meeting is not permitted. Perhaps it should be..? Stéphane Le 10 août 2010 à 16:11, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :
Wendy,
Absentee voting will not be allowed but I believe the new procedures we approved on 5 August provide a means for the vote to be cast. As stated in our meeting, staff should be distributing a 'cheat sheet' shortly to help Councilors apply the new procedures.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:04 AM To: Glen de Saint Géry Cc: Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] GNSO Council meeting Wednesday 8 September at 15:00UTC
My apologies in advance, I will be unable to join this meeting.
If absentee voting is permitted, I vote for Mike Rodenbaugh's motion supporting commencement of work on WHOIS Study 1.
Thanks, --Wendy
On 08/10/2010 09:20 AM, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
Dear Councillors,
Just a reminder that it was agreed to change the GNSO Council meeting
date in September to Wednesday, 8 September 2010 at 15:00 UTC.
Please see the calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#sep
Thank you. Kind regards,
Glen
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
-- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b90048f2bfa1fb043625de7955dfdda6.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
It seems like a good idea to test the new procedures out before we start proposing additional options. Ken Bour is working with ICANN's IT team to provide some online tools to facilitate understanding and applying the procedures. Until those tools are available, a link to version 2.0 of the procedures can be found at http://gnso.icann.org/council/docs.html . Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:52 PM To: Gomes, Chuck Cc: Wendy Seltzer; Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] GNSO Council meeting Wednesday 8 September at 15:00UTC
This crib sheet will be very helpful. AFAIK, proxy voting by email ahead of a meeting is not permitted. Perhaps it should be..?
Stéphane
Le 10 août 2010 à 16:11, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :
Wendy,
Absentee voting will not be allowed but I believe the new procedures
we approved on 5 August provide a means for the vote to be cast. As stated in our meeting, staff should be distributing a 'cheat sheet' shortly to help Councilors apply the new procedures.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:04 AM To: Glen de Saint Géry Cc: Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] GNSO Council meeting Wednesday 8 September at 15:00UTC
My apologies in advance, I will be unable to join this meeting.
If absentee voting is permitted, I vote for Mike Rodenbaugh's motion supporting commencement of work on WHOIS Study 1.
Thanks, --Wendy
On 08/10/2010 09:20 AM, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
Dear Councillors,
Just a reminder that it was agreed to change the GNSO Council
meeting
date in September to Wednesday, 8 September 2010 at 15:00 UTC.
Please see the calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#sep
Thank you. Kind regards,
Glen
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
-- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b90048f2bfa1fb043625de7955dfdda6.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Wendy, Ken Bour is working on some tools to help Councilors navigate the new procedures that should be available no later than early next week. In the meantime, please refer to version 2 of the GNSO Operating Procedures; a link is provided at http://gnso.icann.org/council/docs.html . Specifically refer to Sections 3.8 and 4.5. Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:04 AM To: Glen de Saint Géry Cc: Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] GNSO Council meeting Wednesday 8 September at 15:00UTC
My apologies in advance, I will be unable to join this meeting.
If absentee voting is permitted, I vote for Mike Rodenbaugh's motion supporting commencement of work on WHOIS Study 1.
Thanks, --Wendy
On 08/10/2010 09:20 AM, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
Dear Councillors,
Just a reminder that it was agreed to change the GNSO Council meeting
date in September to Wednesday, 8 September 2010 at 15:00 UTC.
Please see the calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#sep
Thank you. Kind regards,
Glen
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
-- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b90048f2bfa1fb043625de7955dfdda6.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Wendy, Here are what I believe are the applicable provisions for your situation.
From Section 3.8.1.a.ii: "If circumstances will not permit voting using the alternative means available, the Councilor may declare an intention to abstain on those motions that are scheduled to be voted upon during the GNSO Council meeting at which the Councilor expects to be absent. In such an instance, the procedures in Section 4.5-Abstentions will apply."
From Section 4.5.3 Remedies: "In general, the remedies proceed from simplest in execution to more logistically complex and should, under most circumstances, be evaluated and selected in the order provided."
Section 4.5.3.a Voting Direction: "The first remedy to be considered in avoiding the consequences of an abstention is for the Councilor at issue to request specific voting instructions in writing from Councilor's appointing organization. The Councilor would then be obligated to follow the voting instruction provided. This remedy requires that the appointing organization establish an affirmative or negative voting position, subject to provisions contained in its Charter or Bylaws, on the applicable Council measure/motion. This remedy is recommended when receipt of specific voting instruction from the Councilor's appointing organization will obviate the conditions that would otherwise have resulted in an abstention." Section 4.5.3.b Proxy Voting: "The second method to be considered in avoiding the consequences of an abstention is the use of proxy voting, where the vote of an abstaining Councilor is transferred to another GNSO Councilor. i. For abstentions declared by Councilors not appointed by the Nominating Committee and where voting direction is not a viable remedy, the appointing organization may transfer the vote of the abstaining Councilor to: (1) the House Nominating Committee Appointee (NCA), (2) another of its Constituency Councilors (where applicable), or (3) another Councilor within the Stakeholder Group. The appointing organization must be able to establish an affirmative or negative voting position, subject to provisions contained in its Charter or Bylaws, on the applicable measure/motion for which one of its Councilors has declared an intention to abstain. The Councilor to whom the vote is transferred shall exercise a vote in line with the appointing organization's stated position."
From Section 4.5.3.c Temporary Alternate: "In selecting a Temporary Alternate, the appointing organization shall choose, from within its membership ranks, a responsible individual who is not a current voting GNSO Council member, but is otherwise knowledgeable on the matter at issue and qualified to represent the appointing organization's interests. The Temporary Alternate must meet all criteria (e.g. Term Limits) for GNSO Council membership. i. The GNSO Secretariat will arrange for the named Temporary Alternate to participate in GNSO Council meetings, teleconferences, email list discussions, as appropriate, and will cause such arrangements to be deactivated upon conclusion of the Temporary Alternate's tenure. ii. The Temporary Alternate is entitled to participate in Council deliberations and voting only upon the specific matter(s) outlined in the communication submitted to the GNSO Secretariat (see 4.5.4-b). In all other matters, the regular Councilor is expected to function in Councilor's normal capacity. A Temporary Alternate may not be selected to register a proxy vote, as described in 4.5.3-b, except when the Temporary Alternate is named as a result of provisions contained in Section 3.8-Absences and Vacancies. iii. The presence of a duly recognized Temporary Alternate at a Council meeting is counted in quorum calculations; however, the regular Councilor, if present, and any Temporary Alternate only contribute a count of one to the meeting quorum. iv. Only one Temporary Alternate may be named to act for a GNSO Councilor at a time. v. If the Temporary Alternate is named for a Council member who is an elected officer of the GNSO Council, the Temporary Alternate does not assume those officer duties and responsibilities; the Council's leadership succession shall take effect as provided elsewhere in these procedures."
Hope this helps. Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:52 PM To: Wendy Seltzer; Glen de Saint Géry Cc: Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] GNSO Council meeting Wednesday 8 September at 15:00UTC
Wendy,
Ken Bour is working on some tools to help Councilors navigate the new procedures that should be available no later than early next week. In the meantime, please refer to version 2 of the GNSO Operating Procedures; a link is provided at http://gnso.icann.org/council/docs.html . Specifically refer to Sections 3.8 and 4.5.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:04 AM To: Glen de Saint Géry Cc: Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] GNSO Council meeting Wednesday 8 September at 15:00UTC
My apologies in advance, I will be unable to join this meeting.
If absentee voting is permitted, I vote for Mike Rodenbaugh's motion supporting commencement of work on WHOIS Study 1.
Thanks, --Wendy
On 08/10/2010 09:20 AM, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
Dear Councillors,
Just a reminder that it was agreed to change the GNSO Council
meeting date in September to Wednesday, 8 September 2010 at 15:00 UTC.
Please see the calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#sep
Thank you. Kind regards,
Glen
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
-- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
participants (4)
-
Glen de Saint Géry
-
Gomes, Chuck
-
Stéphane Van Gelder
-
Wendy Seltzer