Same here, for B. Ching Chiao On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Robinson < jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com> wrote:

Hi,

Sorry for the delay. Just back from the US.

I’ll go for B for the same reason as Jeff outlines below.

Jonathan

*From:* owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Neuman, Jeff *Sent:* 17 May 2011 16:54 *To:* 'stephane.vangelder@indom.com'; 'tim@godaddy.com' *Cc:* 'owner-council@gnso.icann.org'; 'council@gnso.icann.org'

*Subject:* Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report

Unfortunately, I cannot commit on behalf of the rysg to that last sentence on "observance" and would prefer its deletion since on our last rysg call questions were raised and I am not sure it adds to the substance of the note.

Thanks. Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq. Vice President, Law & Policy NeuStar, Inc. Jeff.Neuman@neustar.biz

*From*: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com] *Sent*: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:43 AM *To*: tim@godaddy.com <tim@godaddy.com> *Cc*: owner-council@gnso.icann.org <owner-council@gnso.icann.org>; Council GNSO <council@gnso.icann.org> *Subject*: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report

Thanks Tim, Jeff, Mary and Alan,

This would be the proposed message then. Either (I call this version A):

Dear Peter,

We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it has not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move forward with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and hope to provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as possible.

The GNSO Council would also like to inform the Board that it appreciates the JAS WG's scrupulous observance of the GNSO-chartering process, in submitting its Report simultaneously to ALAC and the GNSO for review.

I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the Board.

Best regards,

Stephane van Gelder

GNSO Council Chair

Or (this my version B):

Dear Peter,

We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it has not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move forward with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and hope to provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as possible.

I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the Board.

Best regards,

Stephane van Gelder

GNSO Council Chair

As Olga had requested a vote, I would like to suggest that we give ourselves until Thursday's meeting to vote by return email to the list on either version A or B, and whichever has the most votes is the one I send.

Is that acceptable to everyone?

Thanks,

Stéphane

Le 17 mai 2011 à 14:12, tim@godaddy.com a écrit :

No objection if you remove the last sentence. There is no chartering process for CWGs. The ALAC and GNSO could not even agree on what the charter should be. And at least a few of us have concerns about how and why CWGs are being formed.

Tim ------------------------------

*From: *Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>

*Sender: *owner-council@gnso.icann.org

*Date: *Tue, 17 May 2011 10:45:21 +0200

*To: *Council GNSO<council@gnso.icann.org>

*Subject: *Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report

Councillors,

Please find below the NCSG's suggestion on a message which I could send to the Chairman of the Board in my capacity as Chair of the GNSO.

Thanks Mary for providing this draft.

Please let me have your comments.

Stéphane

Le 14 mai 2011 à 16:31, <Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu> <Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu> a écrit :

Hi - sorry for the delay in getting back to you on the Council letter; there has been some lively discussion among some NCSG folks about it.

We suggest the following draft:

Dear Peter,

We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it has not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move forward with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and hope to provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as possible.

The GNSO Council would also like to inform the Board that it appreciates the JAS WG's scrupulous observance of the chartering process, in submitting its Report simultaneously to ALAC and the GNSO for review.

I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the Board.

Best regards,

Stephane van Gelder

Cheers

Mary

*Mary W S Wong*

*Professor of Law*

*Chair, Graduate IP Programs*

*Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP* UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH 03301 USAEmail: mary.wong@law.unh.eduPhone: 1-603-513-5143Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584

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Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@indom.com>

*To:*

Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com>, Council GNSO < council@gnso.icann.org>

*Date: *

5/14/2011 5:18 AM

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[council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report

Thanks Olivier.

GNSO Council, FYI.

A good weekend to all.

Stéphane

Le 14 mai 2011 à 11:03, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond a écrit :

Dear Stéphane,

please find enclosed, a copy of our follow-up message to the Board including ALAC comments. Please don't hesitate to get in touch if you have any query about its contents. Have a good week-end! Kind regards,

Olivier

-------- Message original --------

*Sujet:*

Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report

*Date :*

Fri, 13 May 2011 20:26:34 -0700

*De :*

ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> <staff@atlarge.icann.org>

*Pour :*

Secretary <secretary@icann.org> <secretary@icann.org>

*Copie à :*

ocl@gih.com <ocl@gih.com> <ocl@gih.com>, carlton.samuels@gmail.com <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> <carlton.samuels@gmail.com>, rafik.dammak@gmail.com <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> <rafik.dammak@gmail.com>, ICANN At-Large Staff<staff@atlarge.icann.org> <staff@atlarge.icann.org>

Dear all,

The At-Large staff has the honor of transmitting to you, on behalf of the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC):

- The Second Milestone Report of the Joint SO/AC New gTLD Applicant Support Working Group ( JAS WG), with a revised ALAC introduction (entitled “Status of this Document”); and - The Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report.

We request that these documents (attached here) be forwarded to the members of the ICANN Board.

The Second Milestone Report was received by the ALAC and the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) on 7 May 2011. Then, the At-Large staff, on behalf of the ALAC, initially forwarded this Report to the Board on 9 May 2011. Please note that the Report itself has not been substantively changed since the Board initially received it on 9 May.

During the period 7–13 May, comments on the Report were collected from the At-Large Community. These comments are the basis for the Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report attached here.

The ALAC ratification process for the Second Milestone Report and the ALAC Statement will begin on 14 May, and the results will be forwarded to the Board.

Please note that GNSO approval of this document is being conducted independently and has not reached the approval stage.

Regards,

Heidi Ullrich, Seth Greene, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber-White, and Marilyn Vernon ICANN At-Large Staff

email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org website: www.atlarge.icann.org

<jas-milestone2-report-7may11-en-alac-revision.pdf><AL-ALAC-ST-0511-2 ALAC Statement on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report - EN.pdf>

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