Council Meeting Times
I created a revised spreadsheet that is attached that I think is a little easier to use, at least for me. I added an option 4 and included a couple blank columns in case others want to try some other variations. Personally, I prefer option 4 that I added to option 1 and I think it negatively impacts fewer people. I am not crazy about starting a meeting at 3 am PST but I prefer that to starting at midnight, undoubtedly because I am a morning person and definitely not a night person. It also seems to me that it is desirable to not cause anyone to have the most undesirable times 2 out of 3 times. One way of avoiding that would be to alternate between two of the options: 1 & 2; 1 & 3; 2 & 4; or 3 & 4. The problem with the latter two combinations (2 & 4 or 3 & 4) is that every other meeting would be at a bad time for Chuck
Thanks Chuck. I have made a couple of edits to your spreadsheet (there were a couple of examples of wrong colour code use in columns 2 and 3. Overall, I would suggest not alternating between 2 sets of options but going with the (simpler IMO) 3-way rotation. Doing so would mean we first settle on a preference between option 1 and 4. As you suggest you would prefer option 4 to option 1 (which is just crazy to me as I would rather work late than early, so it really is a case of personal preference here), perhaps we can go with that one. What do others think? Thanks, Stéphane Le 4 nov. 2009 à 23:04, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :
I created a revised spreadsheet that is attached that I think is a little easier to use, at least for me. I added an option 4 and included a couple blank columns in case others want to try some other variations.
Personally, I prefer option 4 that I added to option 1 and I think it negatively impacts fewer people. I am not crazy about starting a meeting at 3 am PST but I prefer that to starting at midnight, undoubtedly because I am a morning person and definitely not a night person.
It also seems to me that it is desirable to not cause anyone to have the most undesirable times 2 out of 3 times. One way of avoiding that would be to alternate between two of the options: 1 & 2; 1 & 3; 2 & 4; or 3 & 4. The problem with the latter two combinations (2 & 4 or 3 & 4) is that every other meeting would be at a bad time for
Chuck <Time Options for Council Meetings - Gomes Version 4 Nov 09.xls>
Thanks Stephane. Note the following: * In the Option 2 column, I shaded the Hong Kong block in red because I assumed a 2-hour meeting that would extend past midnight. * In the Option 3 column, I shaded the Moscow time in red for the same reason. * Also in the Option 3 column, using the approach I took, I should have shaded the Tokyo time in yellow. I think I caused some confusion by the approach I used. The just approved Council Operating Procedures recommend no meetings from 11 pm to 6 am. Assuming that 11 pm to 12 am and 5 am to 6 am were not quite as bad as other times in that range, I treated them differently (yellow shading). The yellow and red shading combined cover the full range from 11 pm to 6 am. Does that make sense? I correct the Tokyo shading under Option 3 in the attached spreadsheet. Chuck _____ From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:22 PM To: Gomes, Chuck Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Council Meeting Times Thanks Chuck. I have made a couple of edits to your spreadsheet (there were a couple of examples of wrong colour code use in columns 2 and 3. Overall, I would suggest not alternating between 2 sets of options but going with the (simpler IMO) 3-way rotation. Doing so would mean we first settle on a preference between option 1 and 4. As you suggest you would prefer option 4 to option 1 (which is just crazy to me as I would rather work late than early, so it really is a case of personal preference here), perhaps we can go with that one. What do others think? Thanks, Stéphane
OK Chuck thanks, that makes sense. I thought you were using start times only as your point of reference. Stéphane Van Gelder Directeur Général / General manager +33 1 48 01 86 17 INDOM Noms de domaine / Domain names 124-126, rue de Provence 75008 Paris France 0820 77 7000 (Prix d'un appel local) De l'étranger (calling from outside France): + 33 1 76 70 05 67 www.indom.com Daily domain name industry news: www.domaines.info Mon blog/My blog : www.stephanevangelder.com Twitter : stephvg Le 5 nov. 2009 à 00:57, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :
Thanks Stephane. Note the following: In the Option 2 column, I shaded the Hong Kong block in red because I assumed a 2-hour meeting that would extend past midnight. In the Option 3 column, I shaded the Moscow time in red for the same reason. Also in the Option 3 column, using the approach I took, I should have shaded the Tokyo time in yellow. I think I caused some confusion by the approach I used. The just approved Council Operating Procedures recommend no meetings from 11 pm to 6 am. Assuming that 11 pm to 12 am and 5 am to 6 am were not quite as bad as other times in that range, I treated them differently (yellow shading). The yellow and red shading combined cover the full range from 11 pm to 6 am. Does that make sense?
I correct the Tokyo shading under Option 3 in the attached spreadsheet.
Chuck
From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:22 PM To: Gomes, Chuck Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Council Meeting Times
Thanks Chuck.
I have made a couple of edits to your spreadsheet (there were a couple of examples of wrong colour code use in columns 2 and 3.
Overall, I would suggest not alternating between 2 sets of options but going with the (simpler IMO) 3-way rotation. Doing so would mean we first settle on a preference between option 1 and 4. As you suggest you would prefer option 4 to option 1 (which is just crazy to me as I would rather work late than early, so it really is a case of personal preference here), perhaps we can go with that one.
What do others think?
Thanks,
Stéphane <Time Options for Council Meetings - Gomes Version 2 - 4 Nov 09.xls>
No. I assumed a meeting time of two hours and if any of the two hour block was in the undesirable range, I shaded the full two hours in red or yellow. Chuck _____ From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 6:11 AM To: Gomes, Chuck Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Council Meeting Times OK Chuck thanks, that makes sense. I thought you were using start times only as your point of reference. Stéphane Van Gelder Directeur Général / General manager +33 1 48 01 86 17 INDOM Noms de domaine / Domain names 124-126, rue de Provence 75008 Paris France 0820 77 7000 (Prix d'un appel local) De l'étranger (calling from outside France): + 33 1 76 70 05 67 www.indom.com Daily domain name industry news: www.domaines.info Mon blog/My blog : www.stephanevangelder.com Twitter : stephvg Le 5 nov. 2009 à 00:57, Gomes, Chuck a écrit : Thanks Stephane. Note the following: * In the Option 2 column, I shaded the Hong Kong block in red because I assumed a 2-hour meeting that would extend past midnight. * In the Option 3 column, I shaded the Moscow time in red for the same reason. * Also in the Option 3 column, using the approach I took, I should have shaded the Tokyo time in yellow. I think I caused some confusion by the approach I used. The just approved Council Operating Procedures recommend no meetings from 11 pm to 6 am. Assuming that 11 pm to 12 am and 5 am to 6 am were not quite as bad as other times in that range, I treated them differently (yellow shading). The yellow and red shading combined cover the full range from 11 pm to 6 am. Does that make sense? I correct the Tokyo shading under Option 3 in the attached spreadsheet. Chuck _____ From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:22 PM To: Gomes, Chuck Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Council Meeting Times Thanks Chuck. I have made a couple of edits to your spreadsheet (there were a couple of examples of wrong colour code use in columns 2 and 3. Overall, I would suggest not alternating between 2 sets of options but going with the (simpler IMO) 3-way rotation. Doing so would mean we first settle on a preference between option 1 and 4. As you suggest you would prefer option 4 to option 1 (which is just crazy to me as I would rather work late than early, so it really is a case of personal preference here), perhaps we can go with that one. What do others think? Thanks, Stéphane <Time Options for Council Meetings - Gomes Version 2 - 4 Nov 09.xls>
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