Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore
Thanks Katim. I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting. I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting... Stéphane Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics:
A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following:
What the proposed Summit will discuss? Who will be on the panel of presenters? The format for the Summit (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:
Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011
Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)
Location: Raffles Ballroom
Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Hi Stéphane, Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend. Have a great week, and best wishes! Sincerely, Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>
Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics:
1. A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) 2. ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) 3. Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward
The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following:
1. What the proposed Summit will discuss? 2. Who will be on the panel of presenters? 3. The format for the Summit 4. (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC)
Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:
*Date:* Sunday, June 19, 2011
*Time:* 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)
*Location:* Raffles Ballroom
*Service:* Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;) Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;) Best, Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics:
A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following:
What the proposed Summit will discuss? Who will be on the panel of presenters? The format for the Summit (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:
Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011
Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)
Location: Raffles Ballroom
Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Stéphane, I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us. A bientot! Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>
What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
Best,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>
Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics:
1. A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) 2. ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) 3. Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward
The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following:
1. What the proposed Summit will discuss? 2. Who will be on the panel of presenters? 3. The format for the Summit 4. (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC)
Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:
*Date:* Sunday, June 19, 2011
*Time:* 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)
*Location:* Raffles Ballroom
*Service:* Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Hello Katim As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory. Stéphane, what's our selection process? Best, Bill On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:
Stéphane,
I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us.
A bientot!
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
Best,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics:
A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following:
What the proposed Summit will discuss? Who will be on the panel of presenters? The format for the Summit (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:
Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011
Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)
Location: Raffles Ballroom
Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Hi Katim, I am also interested in participating in this meeting. Best regards Olga 2011/5/23 William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch>
Hello Katim
As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory.
Stéphane, what's our selection process?
Best,
Bill
On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:
Stéphane,
I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us.
A bientot!
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>
What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
Best,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>
Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics:
1. A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) 2. ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) 3. Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward
The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following:
1. What the proposed Summit will discuss? 2. Who will be on the panel of presenters? 3. The format for the Summit 4. (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC)
Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:
*Date:* Sunday, June 19, 2011
*Time:* 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)
*Location:* Raffles Ballroom
*Service:* Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Katim and All, I`m very interested too. please take me in account. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:50:01 -0300 Subject: Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore From: olgacavalli@gmail.com To: william.drake@uzh.ch CC: kstouray@gmail.com; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Hi Katim, I am also interested in participating in this meeting. Best regards Olga 2011/5/23 William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> Hello Katim As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory. Stéphane, what's our selection process? Best, Bill On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote: Stéphane, I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us. A bientot! Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;) Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;) Best, Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Hi Stéphane, Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend. Have a great week, and best wishes! Sincerely, Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim. I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting. I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting... Stéphane Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Dear all, I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward. In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics: A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries)ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc)Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way ForwardThe meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following: What the proposed Summit will discuss?Who will be on the panel of presenters?The format for the Summit(S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC)Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011 Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)Location: Raffles BallroomService: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are. Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me. Sincerely, Katim <ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
All, I find it a little concerning that meetings are being scheduled during the Council sessions. Years back we deliberately created the weekend sessions to avoid conflict with other meetings. Now, with the new gTLDs, GAC meetings and this new session, we have more conflicts than prior to having the weekend sessions. I believe all council meetings should be mandatory for all councilors. We are supposed to be the policy arm of ICANN leading the bottom-up policy development process. But we cannot do our job without everyone being present even if it means having to forgo other meetings that may be of more interest to us. The weekend sessions are vital to ensuring good discussion and debate on the substance so that we can bring those back to our constituencies and stakeholder groups. I truly appreciate the efforts of Katim, the ICANN Board, the GAC and others to have this workshop focusing on Developing Countries and this is in no way a statement about that session, but am now very concerned at the facts that: 1. We are starting the meeting at noon on Saturday to accommodate Councilors that arrive late 2. We may not be meeting on Sunday afternoon given the recent announcement of the not-yet-scheduled Sunday afternoon with the Board-GAC; and 3. This new session on Sunday morning. So what time does that leave the Council on the weekend to get everything accomplished? There will be final reports of the PDP-WT, PEDNR, IRTP-B, a preliminary issues report for the UDRP, a discussion paper on abusive domain name practices, and whatever motions come our way. So, what are the next steps? Best regards, Jeffrey J. 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From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of carlos dionisio aguirre Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:14 AM To: olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore Katim and All, I`m very interested too. please take me in account. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org ________________________________ Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:50:01 -0300 Subject: Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore From: olgacavalli@gmail.com To: william.drake@uzh.ch CC: kstouray@gmail.com; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Hi Katim, I am also interested in participating in this meeting. Best regards Olga 2011/5/23 William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch<mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch>> Hello Katim As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory. Stéphane, what's our selection process? Best, Bill On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote: Stéphane, I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us. A bientot! Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com<mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com>> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;) Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;) Best, Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Hi Stéphane, Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend. Have a great week, and best wishes! Sincerely, Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com<mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com>> Thanks Katim. I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting. I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting... Stéphane Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Dear all, I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward. In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics: 1. A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) 2. ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) 3. Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following: 1. What the proposed Summit will discuss? 2. Who will be on the panel of presenters? 3. The format for the Summit 4. (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows: Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011 Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes) Location: Raffles Ballroom Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are. Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me. Sincerely, Katim <ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
As a council member I support this view.
From my business and my personal perspective I'm also very much interested in the Summit on Developing Countries in particular with regards to the internet and ICT development aspects. To ensure council work as planned, I therefore like to suggest that the SG's/Constituencies - in case they like to attend the summit preparation - send Non-Council-members to this event.
Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Neuman, Jeff Gesendet: Montag, 23. Mai 2011 16:36 An: carlos dionisio aguirre; olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Betreff: GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore) All, I find it a little concerning that meetings are being scheduled during the Council sessions. Years back we deliberately created the weekend sessions to avoid conflict with other meetings. Now, with the new gTLDs, GAC meetings and this new session, we have more conflicts than prior to having the weekend sessions. I believe all council meetings should be mandatory for all councilors. We are supposed to be the policy arm of ICANN leading the bottom-up policy development process. But we cannot do our job without everyone being present even if it means having to forgo other meetings that may be of more interest to us. The weekend sessions are vital to ensuring good discussion and debate on the substance so that we can bring those back to our constituencies and stakeholder groups. I truly appreciate the efforts of Katim, the ICANN Board, the GAC and others to have this workshop focusing on Developing Countries and this is in no way a statement about that session, but am now very concerned at the facts that: 1. We are starting the meeting at noon on Saturday to accommodate Councilors that arrive late 2. We may not be meeting on Sunday afternoon given the recent announcement of the not-yet-scheduled Sunday afternoon with the Board-GAC; and 3. This new session on Sunday morning. So what time does that leave the Council on the weekend to get everything accomplished? There will be final reports of the PDP-WT, PEDNR, IRTP-B, a preliminary issues report for the UDRP, a discussion paper on abusive domain name practices, and whatever motions come our way. So, what are the next steps? Best regards, Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy Please note new address: 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166 ________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this e-mail message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message. From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of carlos dionisio aguirre Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:14 AM To: olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore Katim and All, I`m very interested too. please take me in account. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org ________________________________ Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:50:01 -0300 Subject: Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore From: olgacavalli@gmail.com To: william.drake@uzh.ch CC: kstouray@gmail.com; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Hi Katim, I am also interested in participating in this meeting. Best regards Olga 2011/5/23 William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> Hello Katim As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory. Stéphane, what's our selection process? Best, Bill On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote: Stéphane, I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us. A bientot! Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;) Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;) Best, Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Hi Stéphane, Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend. Have a great week, and best wishes! Sincerely, Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim. I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting. I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting... Stéphane Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Dear all, I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward. In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics: 1. A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) 2. ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) 3. Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following: 1. What the proposed Summit will discuss? 2. Who will be on the panel of presenters? 3. The format for the Summit 4. (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows: Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011 Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes) Location: Raffles Ballroom Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are. Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me. Sincerely, Katim <ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Thanks for a very balanced suggestion Wolf. It may not suit everyone, but I think it does provide a workable solution for all GNSO groups. Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 17:10, <KnobenW@telekom.de> a écrit :
As a council member I support this view. From my business and my personal perspective I'm also very much interested in the Summit on Developing Countries in particular with regards to the internet and ICT development aspects. To ensure council work as planned, I therefore like to suggest that the SG's/Constituencies - in case they like to attend the summit preparation - send Non-Council-members to this event.
Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich
Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Neuman, Jeff Gesendet: Montag, 23. Mai 2011 16:36 An: carlos dionisio aguirre; olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Betreff: GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore)
All,
I find it a little concerning that meetings are being scheduled during the Council sessions. Years back we deliberately created the weekend sessions to avoid conflict with other meetings. Now, with the new gTLDs, GAC meetings and this new session, we have more conflicts than prior to having the weekend sessions.
I believe all council meetings should be mandatory for all councilors. We are supposed to be the policy arm of ICANN leading the bottom-up policy development process. But we cannot do our job without everyone being present even if it means having to forgo other meetings that may be of more interest to us. The weekend sessions are vital to ensuring good discussion and debate on the substance so that we can bring those back to our constituencies and stakeholder groups.
I truly appreciate the efforts of Katim, the ICANN Board, the GAC and others to have this workshop focusing on Developing Countries and this is in no way a statement about that session, but am now very concerned at the facts that:
1. We are starting the meeting at noon on Saturday to accommodate Councilors that arrive late 2. We may not be meeting on Sunday afternoon given the recent announcement of the not-yet-scheduled Sunday afternoon with the Board-GAC; and 3. This new session on Sunday morning.
So what time does that leave the Council on the weekend to get everything accomplished? There will be final reports of the PDP-WT, PEDNR, IRTP-B, a preliminary issues report for the UDRP, a discussion paper on abusive domain name practices, and whatever motions come our way.
So, what are the next steps?
Best regards,
Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy Please note new address: 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166
The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this e-mail message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message.
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of carlos dionisio aguirre Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:14 AM To: olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore
Katim and All, I`m very interested too. please take me in account.
Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:50:01 -0300 Subject: Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore From: olgacavalli@gmail.com To: william.drake@uzh.ch CC: kstouray@gmail.com; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org
Hi Katim, I am also interested in participating in this meeting. Best regards Olga
2011/5/23 William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> Hello Katim
As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory.
Stéphane, what's our selection process?
Best,
Bill
On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:
Stéphane,
I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us.
A bientot!
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
Best,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics: A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following: What the proposed Summit will discuss? Who will be on the panel of presenters? The format for the Summit (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows: Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011 Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes) Location: Raffles Ballroom Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Hi, Wolf your suggestion is valid but not for noncom appointees to the GNSO Council, we are not members of constituencies or SG. Regards Olga 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>
Thanks for a very balanced suggestion Wolf. It may not suit everyone, but I think it does provide a workable solution for all GNSO groups.
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 17:10, <KnobenW@telekom.de> a écrit :
As a council member I support this view. From my business and my personal perspective I'm also very much interested in the Summit on Developing Countries in particular with regards to the internet and ICT development aspects. To ensure council work as planned, I therefore like to suggest that the SG's/Constituencies - in case they like to attend the summit preparation - send Non-Council-members to this event.
Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich
------------------------------ *Von:* owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] *Im Auftrag von *Neuman, Jeff *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. Mai 2011 16:36 *An:* carlos dionisio aguirre; olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch *Cc:* Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org *Betreff:* GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore)
All,
I find it a little concerning that meetings are being scheduled during the Council sessions. Years back we deliberately created the weekend sessions to avoid conflict with other meetings. Now, with the new gTLDs, GAC meetings and this new session, we have more conflicts than prior to having the weekend sessions.
I believe all council meetings should be *mandatory* for all councilors. We are supposed to be the policy arm of ICANN leading the bottom-up policy development process. But we cannot do our job without everyone being present even if it means having to forgo other meetings that may be of more interest to us. The weekend sessions are vital to ensuring good discussion and debate on the substance so that we can bring those back to our constituencies and stakeholder groups.
I truly appreciate the efforts of Katim, the ICANN Board, the GAC and others to have this workshop focusing on Developing Countries and this is in no way a statement about that session, but am now *very* concerned at the facts that:
1. We are starting the meeting at noon on Saturday to accommodate Councilors that arrive late 2. We may not be meeting on Sunday afternoon given the recent announcement of the not-yet-scheduled Sunday afternoon with the Board-GAC; and 3. This new session on Sunday morning.
So what time does that leave the Council on the weekend to get everything accomplished? There will be final reports of the PDP-WT, PEDNR, IRTP-B, a preliminary issues report for the UDRP, a discussion paper on abusive domain name practices, and whatever motions come our way.
So, what are the next steps?
Best regards,
*Jeffrey J. Neuman** **Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy* Please note new address: 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166
------------------------------ The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this e-mail message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message.
*From:* owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *carlos dionisio aguirre *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2011 10:14 AM *To:* olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch *Cc:* Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore
Katim and All, I`m very interested too. please take me in account. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org
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Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:50:01 -0300 Subject: Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore From: olgacavalli@gmail.com To: william.drake@uzh.ch CC: kstouray@gmail.com; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org
Hi Katim, I am also interested in participating in this meeting. Best regards Olga 2011/5/23 William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> Hello Katim
As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory.
Stéphane, what's our selection process?
Best,
Bill
On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:
Stéphane,
I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us.
A bientot!
Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
Best,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics:
1. A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) 2. ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) 3. Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward
The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following:
1. What the proposed Summit will discuss? 2. Who will be on the panel of presenters? 3. The format for the Summit 4. (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC)
Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows: *Date:* Sunday, June 19, 2011 *Time:* 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes) *Location:* Raffles Ballroom *Service:* Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Olga + 1 Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 13:50:40 -0300 Subject: Re: AW: GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore) From: olgacavalli@gmail.com To: stephane.vangelder@indom.com CC: KnobenW@telekom.de; Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us; carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch; kstouray@gmail.com; council@gnso.icann.org Hi, Wolf your suggestion is valid but not for noncom appointees to the GNSO Council, we are not members of constituencies or SG. Regards Olga 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks for a very balanced suggestion Wolf. It may not suit everyone, but I think it does provide a workable solution for all GNSO groups. Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 17:10, <KnobenW@telekom.de> a écrit : As a council member I support this view.From my business and my personal perspective I'm also very much interested in the Summit on Developing Countries in particular with regards to the internet and ICT development aspects. To ensure council work as planned, I therefore like to suggest that the SG's/Constituencies - in case they like to attend the summit preparation - send Non-Council-members to this event. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Neuman, Jeff Gesendet: Montag, 23. Mai 2011 16:36 An: carlos dionisio aguirre; olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Betreff: GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore) All, I find it a little concerning that meetings are being scheduled during the Council sessions. Years back we deliberately created the weekend sessions to avoid conflict with other meetings. Now, with the new gTLDs, GAC meetings and this new session, we have more conflicts than prior to having the weekend sessions. I believe all council meetings should be mandatory for all councilors. We are supposed to be the policy arm of ICANN leading the bottom-up policy development process. But we cannot do our job without everyone being present even if it means having to forgo other meetings that may be of more interest to us. The weekend sessions are vital to ensuring good discussion and debate on the substance so that we can bring those back to our constituencies and stakeholder groups. I truly appreciate the efforts of Katim, the ICANN Board, the GAC and others to have this workshop focusing on Developing Countries and this is in no way a statement about that session, but am now very concerned at the facts that: 1. We are starting the meeting at noon on Saturday to accommodate Councilors that arrive late 2. We may not be meeting on Sunday afternoon given the recent announcement of the not-yet-scheduled Sunday afternoon with the Board-GAC; and 3. This new session on Sunday morning. So what time does that leave the Council on the weekend to get everything accomplished? There will be final reports of the PDP-WT, PEDNR, IRTP-B, a preliminary issues report for the UDRP, a discussion paper on abusive domain name practices, and whatever motions come our way. So, what are the next steps? Best regards, Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy Please note new address: 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166 The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this e-mail message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message. From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of carlos dionisio aguirre Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:14 AM To: olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore Katim and All, I`m very interested too. please take me in account. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALOAbogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:50:01 -0300 Subject: Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore From: olgacavalli@gmail.com To: william.drake@uzh.ch CC: kstouray@gmail.com; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Hi Katim, I am also interested in participating in this meeting. Best regards Olga 2011/5/23 William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> Hello Katim As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory. Stéphane, what's our selection process? Best, Bill On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote: Stéphane, I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us. A bientot! Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;) Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;) Best, Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Hi Stéphane, Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend. Have a great week, and best wishes! Sincerely, Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim. I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting. I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting... Stéphane Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Dear all, I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward. In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics: A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following: What the proposed Summit will discuss? Who will be on the panel of presenters? The format for the Summit (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows: Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011 Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes) Location: Raffles Ballroom Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are. Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me. Sincerely, Katim <ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Carlos, 100% - 3 Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: carlos dionisio aguirre [mailto:carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com] Gesendet: Montag, 23. Mai 2011 18:52 An: olgacavalli@gmail.com; stephane.vangelder@indom.com Cc: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; jeff.neuman@neustar.us; william Drake; Katim Touray; council@gnso.icann.org Betreff: RE: AW: GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore) Olga + 1 Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org ________________________________ Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 13:50:40 -0300 Subject: Re: AW: GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore) From: olgacavalli@gmail.com To: stephane.vangelder@indom.com CC: KnobenW@telekom.de; Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us; carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch; kstouray@gmail.com; council@gnso.icann.org Hi, Wolf your suggestion is valid but not for noncom appointees to the GNSO Council, we are not members of constituencies or SG. Regards Olga 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks for a very balanced suggestion Wolf. It may not suit everyone, but I think it does provide a workable solution for all GNSO groups. Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 17:10, <KnobenW@telekom.de> a écrit : As a council member I support this view. From my business and my personal perspective I'm also very much interested in the Summit on Developing Countries in particular with regards to the internet and ICT development aspects. To ensure council work as planned, I therefore like to suggest that the SG's/Constituencies - in case they like to attend the summit preparation - send Non-Council-members to this event. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Neuman, Jeff Gesendet: Montag, 23. Mai 2011 16:36 An: carlos dionisio aguirre; olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Betreff: GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore) All, I find it a little concerning that meetings are being scheduled during the Council sessions. Years back we deliberately created the weekend sessions to avoid conflict with other meetings. Now, with the new gTLDs, GAC meetings and this new session, we have more conflicts than prior to having the weekend sessions. I believe all council meetings should be mandatory for all councilors. We are supposed to be the policy arm of ICANN leading the bottom-up policy development process. But we cannot do our job without everyone being present even if it means having to forgo other meetings that may be of more interest to us. The weekend sessions are vital to ensuring good discussion and debate on the substance so that we can bring those back to our constituencies and stakeholder groups. I truly appreciate the efforts of Katim, the ICANN Board, the GAC and others to have this workshop focusing on Developing Countries and this is in no way a statement about that session, but am now very concerned at the facts that: 1. We are starting the meeting at noon on Saturday to accommodate Councilors that arrive late 2. We may not be meeting on Sunday afternoon given the recent announcement of the not-yet-scheduled Sunday afternoon with the Board-GAC; and 3. This new session on Sunday morning. So what time does that leave the Council on the weekend to get everything accomplished? There will be final reports of the PDP-WT, PEDNR, IRTP-B, a preliminary issues report for the UDRP, a discussion paper on abusive domain name practices, and whatever motions come our way. So, what are the next steps? Best regards, Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy Please note new address: 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166 ________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this e-mail message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message. From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of carlos dionisio aguirre Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:14 AM To: olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore Katim and All, I`m very interested too. please take me in account. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org ________________________________ Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:50:01 -0300 Subject: Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore From: olgacavalli@gmail.com To: william.drake@uzh.ch CC: kstouray@gmail.com; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Hi Katim, I am also interested in participating in this meeting. Best regards Olga 2011/5/23 William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> Hello Katim As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory. Stéphane, what's our selection process? Best, Bill On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote: Stéphane, I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us. A bientot! Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;) Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;) Best, Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Hi Stéphane, Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend. Have a great week, and best wishes! Sincerely, Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim. I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting. I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting... Stéphane Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Dear all, I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward. In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics: 1. A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) 2. ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) 3. Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following: 1. What the proposed Summit will discuss? 2. Who will be on the panel of presenters? 3. The format for the Summit 4. (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows: Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011 Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes) Location: Raffles Ballroom Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are. Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me. Sincerely, Katim <ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
That's what I was taking into consideration. Almost nothing fits 100% to this council. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: Olga Cavalli [mailto:olgacavalli@gmail.com] Gesendet: Montag, 23. Mai 2011 18:51 An: Stéphane Van Gelder Cc: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us; carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch; kstouray@gmail.com; council@gnso.icann.org Betreff: Re: AW: GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore) Hi, Wolf your suggestion is valid but not for noncom appointees to the GNSO Council, we are not members of constituencies or SG. Regards Olga 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks for a very balanced suggestion Wolf. It may not suit everyone, but I think it does provide a workable solution for all GNSO groups. Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 17:10, <KnobenW@telekom.de> a écrit : As a council member I support this view. From my business and my personal perspective I'm also very much interested in the Summit on Developing Countries in particular with regards to the internet and ICT development aspects. To ensure council work as planned, I therefore like to suggest that the SG's/Constituencies - in case they like to attend the summit preparation - send Non-Council-members to this event. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Neuman, Jeff Gesendet: Montag, 23. Mai 2011 16:36 An: carlos dionisio aguirre; olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Betreff: GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore) All, I find it a little concerning that meetings are being scheduled during the Council sessions. Years back we deliberately created the weekend sessions to avoid conflict with other meetings. Now, with the new gTLDs, GAC meetings and this new session, we have more conflicts than prior to having the weekend sessions. I believe all council meetings should be mandatory for all councilors. We are supposed to be the policy arm of ICANN leading the bottom-up policy development process. But we cannot do our job without everyone being present even if it means having to forgo other meetings that may be of more interest to us. The weekend sessions are vital to ensuring good discussion and debate on the substance so that we can bring those back to our constituencies and stakeholder groups. I truly appreciate the efforts of Katim, the ICANN Board, the GAC and others to have this workshop focusing on Developing Countries and this is in no way a statement about that session, but am now very concerned at the facts that: 1. We are starting the meeting at noon on Saturday to accommodate Councilors that arrive late 2. We may not be meeting on Sunday afternoon given the recent announcement of the not-yet-scheduled Sunday afternoon with the Board-GAC; and 3. This new session on Sunday morning. So what time does that leave the Council on the weekend to get everything accomplished? There will be final reports of the PDP-WT, PEDNR, IRTP-B, a preliminary issues report for the UDRP, a discussion paper on abusive domain name practices, and whatever motions come our way. So, what are the next steps? Best regards, Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy Please note new address: 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166 ________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this e-mail message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message. From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of carlos dionisio aguirre Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:14 AM To: olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore Katim and All, I`m very interested too. please take me in account. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org ________________________________ Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:50:01 -0300 Subject: Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore From: olgacavalli@gmail.com To: william.drake@uzh.ch CC: kstouray@gmail.com; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Hi Katim, I am also interested in participating in this meeting. Best regards Olga 2011/5/23 William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> Hello Katim As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory. Stéphane, what's our selection process? Best, Bill On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote: Stéphane, I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us. A bientot! Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;) Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;) Best, Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Hi Stéphane, Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend. Have a great week, and best wishes! Sincerely, Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim. I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting. I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting... Stéphane Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Dear all, I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward. In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics: 1. A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) 2. ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) 3. Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following: 1. What the proposed Summit will discuss? 2. Who will be on the panel of presenters? 3. The format for the Summit 4. (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows: Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011 Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes) Location: Raffles Ballroom Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are. Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me. Sincerely, Katim <ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
A powerful message Jeff, thanks. I expressed dismay in my initial response to Katim, because I too find it troublesome that not all Councillors can attend our weekend sessions. However, I would be against making any session mandatory for folks. We all have personal circumstances that may force us to miss meetings, be they our own interests or work issues or anything else. Being a volunteer on the Council is hard enough on each of us as it is, I do not think there should EVER be a case where a Councillor is obliged to be present (and what would be the punishment for those who aren't?). As Councillors, we all take our responsibilities to the body we serve very seriously. At least that's the feeling I get from working alongside you all. My suggestion: let's just trust people to be as responsible as possible, and give them some freedom to slip out of the room sometimes when there are other things of interest to them. That being said, I have fought tooth and nail over the past year to ensure that there are as little conflicts as possible with any GNSO sessions over the entire ICANN meeting week (including our open meeting on the Wednesday), and I will continue to do so, and ask for the Council's support in doing so. Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 16:36, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
All,
I find it a little concerning that meetings are being scheduled during the Council sessions. Years back we deliberately created the weekend sessions to avoid conflict with other meetings. Now, with the new gTLDs, GAC meetings and this new session, we have more conflicts than prior to having the weekend sessions.
I believe all council meetings should be mandatory for all councilors. We are supposed to be the policy arm of ICANN leading the bottom-up policy development process. But we cannot do our job without everyone being present even if it means having to forgo other meetings that may be of more interest to us. The weekend sessions are vital to ensuring good discussion and debate on the substance so that we can bring those back to our constituencies and stakeholder groups.
I truly appreciate the efforts of Katim, the ICANN Board, the GAC and others to have this workshop focusing on Developing Countries and this is in no way a statement about that session, but am now very concerned at the facts that:
1. We are starting the meeting at noon on Saturday to accommodate Councilors that arrive late 2. We may not be meeting on Sunday afternoon given the recent announcement of the not-yet-scheduled Sunday afternoon with the Board-GAC; and 3. This new session on Sunday morning.
So what time does that leave the Council on the weekend to get everything accomplished? There will be final reports of the PDP-WT, PEDNR, IRTP-B, a preliminary issues report for the UDRP, a discussion paper on abusive domain name practices, and whatever motions come our way.
So, what are the next steps?
Best regards,
Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy Please note new address: 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166
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From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of carlos dionisio aguirre Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:14 AM To: olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore
Katim and All, I`m very interested too. please take me in account.
Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:50:01 -0300 Subject: Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore From: olgacavalli@gmail.com To: william.drake@uzh.ch CC: kstouray@gmail.com; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org
Hi Katim, I am also interested in participating in this meeting. Best regards Olga
2011/5/23 William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> Hello Katim
As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory.
Stéphane, what's our selection process?
Best,
Bill
On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:
Stéphane,
I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us.
A bientot!
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
Best,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics: A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following: What the proposed Summit will discuss? Who will be on the panel of presenters? The format for the Summit (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows: Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011 Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes) Location: Raffles Ballroom Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Hi On May 23, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
A powerful message Jeff, thanks. I expressed dismay in my initial response to Katim, because I too find it troublesome that not all Councillors can attend our weekend sessions.
However, I would be against making any session mandatory for folks. We all have personal circumstances that may force us to miss meetings, be they our own interests or work issues or anything else.
We also have different priorities across our respective constituencies and SGs, which may at times think it's more important for someone to be present in x rather than y session. Simply saying that only non-Councilors should be allowed to cover meeting x isn't really a solution given that interests and expertise on a subject may vary, and a constituency or SG might not have enough other bodies that are equally or more optimized to a given task. And of course, it wouldn't work for NCAs either. We've had a lot of discussion in recent months about what the Council's roles and responsibilities are or are not; it would seem odd given the thrust of the sentiments that have been expressed for it to now decree that it can tell constituencies and SGs where their reps should be and what they can work on.
Being a volunteer on the Council is hard enough on each of us as it is, I do not think there should EVER be a case where a Councillor is obliged to be present (and what would be the punishment for those who aren't?).
I'm biting my tongue here.
As Councillors, we all take our responsibilities to the body we serve very seriously. At least that's the feeling I get from working alongside you all. My suggestion: let's just trust people to be as responsible as possible, and give them some freedom to slip out of the room sometimes when there are other things of interest to them.
and their AOs.
That being said, I have fought tooth and nail over the past year to ensure that there are as little conflicts as possible with any GNSO sessions over the entire ICANN meeting week (including our open meeting on the Wednesday), and I will continue to do so, and ask for the Council's support in doing so.
Seems the right approach to me. Best Bill
Le 23 mai 2011 à 16:36, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
All,
I find it a little concerning that meetings are being scheduled during the Council sessions. Years back we deliberately created the weekend sessions to avoid conflict with other meetings. Now, with the new gTLDs, GAC meetings and this new session, we have more conflicts than prior to having the weekend sessions.
I believe all council meetings should be mandatory for all councilors. We are supposed to be the policy arm of ICANN leading the bottom-up policy development process. But we cannot do our job without everyone being present even if it means having to forgo other meetings that may be of more interest to us. The weekend sessions are vital to ensuring good discussion and debate on the substance so that we can bring those back to our constituencies and stakeholder groups.
I truly appreciate the efforts of Katim, the ICANN Board, the GAC and others to have this workshop focusing on Developing Countries and this is in no way a statement about that session, but am now very concerned at the facts that:
1. We are starting the meeting at noon on Saturday to accommodate Councilors that arrive late 2. We may not be meeting on Sunday afternoon given the recent announcement of the not-yet-scheduled Sunday afternoon with the Board-GAC; and 3. This new session on Sunday morning.
So what time does that leave the Council on the weekend to get everything accomplished? There will be final reports of the PDP-WT, PEDNR, IRTP-B, a preliminary issues report for the UDRP, a discussion paper on abusive domain name practices, and whatever motions come our way.
So, what are the next steps?
Best regards,
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From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of carlos dionisio aguirre Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:14 AM To: olgacavalli@gmail.com; william.drake@uzh.ch Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore
Katim and All, I`m very interested too. please take me in account.
Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:50:01 -0300 Subject: Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore From: olgacavalli@gmail.com To: william.drake@uzh.ch CC: kstouray@gmail.com; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org
Hi Katim, I am also interested in participating in this meeting. Best regards Olga
2011/5/23 William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> Hello Katim
As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory.
Stéphane, what's our selection process?
Best,
Bill
On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:
Stéphane,
I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us.
A bientot!
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
Best,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics: A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following: What the proposed Summit will discuss? Who will be on the panel of presenters? The format for the Summit (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows: Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011 Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes) Location: Raffles Ballroom Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Bill, As I understand it, this is just a prelim meeting (Katim, please correct me if I'm wrong). So the process AFAIK is you just stand up, wave goodbye to your fellow council members and walk over to the room where Katim's meeting is ;) Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 15:10, William Drake a écrit :
Hello Katim
As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory.
Stéphane, what's our selection process?
Best,
Bill
On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:
Stéphane,
I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us.
A bientot!
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
Best,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics:
A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following:
What the proposed Summit will discuss? Who will be on the panel of presenters? The format for the Summit (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:
Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011
Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)
Location: Raffles Ballroom
Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Bill, I answered too quickly before and wrongly, I apologise. I missed the fact that participation is limited to 2 people from the GNSO. I can feel the headache of trying to select only 2 reps from the GNSO coming a mile away... but I suppose we should put out a call for volunteers then? Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 17:09, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit :
Bill,
As I understand it, this is just a prelim meeting (Katim, please correct me if I'm wrong). So the process AFAIK is you just stand up, wave goodbye to your fellow council members and walk over to the room where Katim's meeting is ;)
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 15:10, William Drake a écrit :
Hello Katim
As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory.
Stéphane, what's our selection process?
Best,
Bill
On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:
Stéphane,
I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us.
A bientot!
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
Best,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics:
A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following:
What the proposed Summit will discuss? Who will be on the panel of presenters? The format for the Summit (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:
Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011
Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)
Location: Raffles Ballroom
Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
I am interested too (may represent China and Asian developing nations), but shall respect GNSO and RySG decision. Thanks! -- Ching On 5/23/11, Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> wrote:
Bill,
I answered too quickly before and wrongly, I apologise. I missed the fact that participation is limited to 2 people from the GNSO. I can feel the headache of trying to select only 2 reps from the GNSO coming a mile away... but I suppose we should put out a call for volunteers then?
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 17:09, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit :
Bill,
As I understand it, this is just a prelim meeting (Katim, please correct me if I'm wrong). So the process AFAIK is you just stand up, wave goodbye to your fellow council members and walk over to the room where Katim's meeting is ;)
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 15:10, William Drake a écrit :
Hello Katim
As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory.
Stéphane, what's our selection process?
Best,
Bill
On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:
Stéphane,
I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us.
A bientot!
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
Best,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics:
A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following:
What the proposed Summit will discuss? Who will be on the panel of presenters? The format for the Summit (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:
Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011
Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)
Location: Raffles Ballroom
Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Hi, Greetings from a UN Commission on Science & Tech for Development meeting in Geneva, where I'm listening to government and government talk about the negative impacts and need for intergovernmental governance of the Internet, the many relevant activities of the ITU, etc. Seems a good setting to be thinking about an outreach meeting focused on developing countries. Katim, may I offer two suggestions for your consideration? First, we've had four Councilors say they'd like to participate in your meeting, and we've not heard yet from Rafik and others who may be as well. So there's clearly interest in what you're doing, which one would think it makes sense to cultivate and translate into engagement. So rather than asking SO/AC's to each do internal selection processes that might leave some people unhappy and artificially restrict the scope of participation in your effort, could you maybe consider just doing an open planning meeting? The turn-out is unlikely to be so large as to make the meeting unmanageable, and you could mobilize more energies… Second, either way, it'd presumably be desirable to schedule it at a time that doesn't directly conflict too much for the folks who are most interested in contributing. I don't know what feedback you're getting from other SO/ACs, but as you can see, Sunday morning's not great for those of us here. Any way you could maybe do it Saturday morning, Monday afternoon, or something similar? Best, Bill On May 23, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
Bill,
I answered too quickly before and wrongly, I apologise. I missed the fact that participation is limited to 2 people from the GNSO. I can feel the headache of trying to select only 2 reps from the GNSO coming a mile away... but I suppose we should put out a call for volunteers then?
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 17:09, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit :
Bill,
As I understand it, this is just a prelim meeting (Katim, please correct me if I'm wrong). So the process AFAIK is you just stand up, wave goodbye to your fellow council members and walk over to the room where Katim's meeting is ;)
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 15:10, William Drake a écrit :
Hello Katim
As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory.
Stéphane, what's our selection process?
Best,
Bill
On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:
Stéphane,
I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us.
A bientot!
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
Best,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Dear all,
I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics:
A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following:
What the proposed Summit will discuss? Who will be on the panel of presenters? The format for the Summit (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:
Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011
Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)
Location: Raffles Ballroom
Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
Sincerely,
Katim
<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Good Idea Bill. ALAC representatives are also unavailable on sunday morning because is their meeting day. Perhaps Katim could change the meeting time Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org Subject: Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore From: william.drake@uzh.ch Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:20:14 +0200 CC: council@gnso.icann.org To: kstouray@gmail.com Hi, Greetings from a UN Commission on Science & Tech for Development meeting in Geneva, where I'm listening to government and government talk about the negative impacts and need for intergovernmental governance of the Internet, the many relevant activities of the ITU, etc. Seems a good setting to be thinking about an outreach meeting focused on developing countries. Katim, may I offer two suggestions for your consideration? First, we've had four Councilors say they'd like to participate in your meeting, and we've not heard yet from Rafik and others who may be as well. So there's clearly interest in what you're doing, which one would think it makes sense to cultivate and translate into engagement. So rather than asking SO/AC's to each do internal selection processes that might leave some people unhappy and artificially restrict the scope of participation in your effort, could you maybe consider just doing an open planning meeting? The turn-out is unlikely to be so large as to make the meeting unmanageable, and you could mobilize more energies… Second, either way, it'd presumably be desirable to schedule it at a time that doesn't directly conflict too much for the folks who are most interested in contributing. I don't know what feedback you're getting from other SO/ACs, but as you can see, Sunday morning's not great for those of us here. Any way you could maybe do it Saturday morning, Monday afternoon, or something similar? Best, Bill On May 23, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:Bill, I answered too quickly before and wrongly, I apologise. I missed the fact that participation is limited to 2 people from the GNSO. I can feel the headache of trying to select only 2 reps from the GNSO coming a mile away... but I suppose we should put out a call for volunteers then? Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 17:09, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit :Bill, As I understand it, this is just a prelim meeting (Katim, please correct me if I'm wrong). So the process AFAIK is you just stand up, wave goodbye to your fellow council members and walk over to the room where Katim's meeting is ;) Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 15:10, William Drake a écrit :Hello Katim As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory. Stéphane, what's our selection process? Best, Bill On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:Stéphane, I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us. A bientot! Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;) Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;) Best, Stéphane Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Hi Stéphane, Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend. Have a great week, and best wishes! Sincerely, Katim 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim. I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting. I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting... Stéphane Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit : Dear all, I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward. In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics: A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries)ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc)Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way ForwardThe meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following: What the proposed Summit will discuss?Who will be on the panel of presenters?The format for the Summit(S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC)Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011 Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)Location: Raffles BallroomService: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are. Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me. Sincerely, Katim <ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
Katim, I couldn't agree more with Bill. Further, could you please clarify for me whether the prep meeting is a Board initiative or your own? I ask because your previous message led me to understand that this was an official Board request. If so, I would like to understand why the Board thinks it's OK to plan a meeting opposite our weekend GNSO sessions, which will already be severely disrupted at the Singapore meeting by the ongoing GAC/Board discussions? Don't get me wrong, as I stated before I support the cause you are championing and I know several Councillors are very keen to participate. However, as Council Chair, my priorities must go to the Council and to making sure that we are able to conduct our official business as best we can. As you know, GNSO Councillors are expected to attend the weekend sessions prior to the official ICANN meeting week and that often requires them to volunteer even more of their personal or (other) work time. Out of respect for them and the efforts the GNSO community as a whole puts into the ICANN process, I think we should be mindful of these things when we add extra sessions that may cause clashes to the planned ICANN meeting schedule. Thanks, Stéphane Le 24 mai 2011 à 11:20, William Drake a écrit :
Hi,
Greetings from a UN Commission on Science & Tech for Development meeting in Geneva, where I'm listening to government and government talk about the negative impacts and need for intergovernmental governance of the Internet, the many relevant activities of the ITU, etc. Seems a good setting to be thinking about an outreach meeting focused on developing countries. Katim, may I offer two suggestions for your consideration?
First, we've had four Councilors say they'd like to participate in your meeting, and we've not heard yet from Rafik and others who may be as well. So there's clearly interest in what you're doing, which one would think it makes sense to cultivate and translate into engagement. So rather than asking SO/AC's to each do internal selection processes that might leave some people unhappy and artificially restrict the scope of participation in your effort, could you maybe consider just doing an open planning meeting? The turn-out is unlikely to be so large as to make the meeting unmanageable, and you could mobilize more energies…
Second, either way, it'd presumably be desirable to schedule it at a time that doesn't directly conflict too much for the folks who are most interested in contributing. I don't know what feedback you're getting from other SO/ACs, but as you can see, Sunday morning's not great for those of us here. Any way you could maybe do it Saturday morning, Monday afternoon, or something similar?
Best,
Bill
On May 23, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
Bill,
I answered too quickly before and wrongly, I apologise. I missed the fact that participation is limited to 2 people from the GNSO. I can feel the headache of trying to select only 2 reps from the GNSO coming a mile away... but I suppose we should put out a call for volunteers then?
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 17:09, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit :
Bill,
As I understand it, this is just a prelim meeting (Katim, please correct me if I'm wrong). So the process AFAIK is you just stand up, wave goodbye to your fellow council members and walk over to the room where Katim's meeting is ;)
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 15:10, William Drake a écrit :
Hello Katim
As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory.
Stéphane, what's our selection process?
Best,
Bill
On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:
Stéphane,
I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are! Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us.
A bientot!
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
Best,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
Hi Stéphane,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict. ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on. However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
Have a great week, and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Katim
2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks Katim.
I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
Stéphane
Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
> Dear all, > > > I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. > > > A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries. The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward. > > > In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there. The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics: > > A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) > ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) > Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward > The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff. The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following: > > What the proposed Summit will discuss? > Who will be on the panel of presenters? > The format for the Summit > (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) > Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows: > > Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011 > > Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes) > > Location: Raffles Ballroom > > Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish > > > Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are. > > > Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me. > > > Sincerely, > > > Katim > > > > <ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
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carlos dionisio aguirre -
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Katim S. Touray -
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