Re: Monday conflict joint ccNSO/GNSO Council and DNS Abuse Forum
Thanks Glen, Margie and Gaby. These potential clashes are becoming more and more frequent and as we've seen from discussions over the past few days, less and less consideration is being given to official GNSO Council meetings. In my view, it should be understood that Councillors will tend to prioritize official Council business instead of side meetings. This means that in this instance, whatever is put up against our lunch with the ccNSO, Councillors should NOT be expected by the side-meeting organisers. Of course this is the official line I would like the Council to take but there will always be exceptions. That is understood and I am not saying that Councillors must attend all Council meetings whatever the circumstances. However, I am no longer OK with the tacit assumption that seems to exist at meeting planning time that putting something opposite a GNSO Council item is fine, and drawing Councillors away from our official business is also fine. Not only is that assumption detrimental to Council business, not only does it make those people working on our own agenda (Mary and Glen this time around) have to work twice as hard to accommodate these schedule clashes that seem to come out of nowhere, but it also sends a signal to the wider community that Council business is not important. I am copying the Council as I would like to push for further discussions on this. Thanks, Stéphane Le 24 mai 2011 à 21:24, Gabriella Schittek a écrit :
Hi,
I believe so, but let me check this with Lesley & co - I'll come back to you as soon as possible!
Gabi
________________________________________ From: Glen de Saint Géry Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:01 PM To: Margie Milam; Gabriella Schittek; Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu; stephane.vangelder@indom.com Cc: gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org; Gisella Gruber-White Subject: RE: Monday conflict joint ccNSO/GNSO Council and DNS Abuse Forum
Thanks would the joint ccNSO/GNSO be acceptable against the IDN Variant meetings?
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
-----Original Message----- From: Margie Milam Sent: mardi 24 mai 2011 20:50 To: Glen de Saint Géry; Gabriella Schittek; Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu; stephane.vangelder@indom.com Cc: gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org; Gisella Gruber-White Subject: RE: Monday conflict joint ccNSO/GNSO Council and DNS Abuse Forum
Is that the only choice? It seems as though the Forum will draw some of the counselors/ccNSO reps, but if that's the only time on Monday, I guess we'll have to live with it. Margie
-----Original Message----- From: Glen de Saint Géry Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:48 PM To: Margie Milam; Gabriella Schittek; Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu; stephane.vangelder@indom.com Cc: gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org; Gisella Gruber-White Subject: Monday conflict joint ccNSO/GNSO Council and DNS Abuse Forum
Dear Gabi, Margie, Mary and Stephane,
We are currently working on the schedule with the meeting team and there is currently a conflict on Monday: 12:30 -14:00 we have the joint ccNSO/GNSO lunch and the DNS Abuse Forum is being planned for 13:00 - 14:30. Could you live with this?
Thanks. Glen
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
+1 It's also frustrating for those in the community that would like to attend both meetings. -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:31 AM To: Gabriella Schittek; Margie Milam; Glen de Saint Géry Cc: Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu> <Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu; Jeff Neuman; David Olive; GNSO Council Subject: [council] Re: Monday conflict joint ccNSO/GNSO Council and DNS Abuse Forum Thanks Glen, Margie and Gaby. These potential clashes are becoming more and more frequent and as we've seen from discussions over the past few days, less and less consideration is being given to official GNSO Council meetings. In my view, it should be understood that Councillors will tend to prioritize official Council business instead of side meetings. This means that in this instance, whatever is put up against our lunch with the ccNSO, Councillors should NOT be expected by the side-meeting organisers. Of course this is the official line I would like the Council to take but there will always be exceptions. That is understood and I am not saying that Councillors must attend all Council meetings whatever the circumstances. However, I am no longer OK with the tacit assumption that seems to exist at meeting planning time that putting something opposite a GNSO Council item is fine, and drawing Councillors away from our official business is also fine. Not only is that assumption detrimental to Council business, not only does it make those people working on our own agenda (Mary and Glen this time around) have to work twice as hard to accommodate these schedule clashes that seem to come out of nowhere, but it also sends a signal to the wider community that Council business is not important. I am copying the Council as I would like to push for further discussions on this. Thanks, Stéphane Le 24 mai 2011 à 21:24, Gabriella Schittek a écrit :
Hi,
I believe so, but let me check this with Lesley & co - I'll come back to you as soon as possible!
Gabi
________________________________________ From: Glen de Saint Géry Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:01 PM To: Margie Milam; Gabriella Schittek; Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu; stephane.vangelder@indom.com Cc: gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org; Gisella Gruber-White Subject: RE: Monday conflict joint ccNSO/GNSO Council and DNS Abuse Forum
Thanks would the joint ccNSO/GNSO be acceptable against the IDN Variant meetings?
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
-----Original Message----- From: Margie Milam Sent: mardi 24 mai 2011 20:50 To: Glen de Saint Géry; Gabriella Schittek; Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu; stephane.vangelder@indom.com Cc: gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org; Gisella Gruber-White Subject: RE: Monday conflict joint ccNSO/GNSO Council and DNS Abuse Forum
Is that the only choice? It seems as though the Forum will draw some of the counselors/ccNSO reps, but if that's the only time on Monday, I guess we'll have to live with it. Margie
-----Original Message----- From: Glen de Saint Géry Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:48 PM To: Margie Milam; Gabriella Schittek; Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu; stephane.vangelder@indom.com Cc: gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org; Gisella Gruber-White Subject: Monday conflict joint ccNSO/GNSO Council and DNS Abuse Forum
Dear Gabi, Margie, Mary and Stephane,
We are currently working on the schedule with the meeting team and there is currently a conflict on Monday: 12:30 -14:00 we have the joint ccNSO/GNSO lunch and the DNS Abuse Forum is being planned for 13:00 - 14:30. Could you live with this?
Thanks. Glen
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
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