Hi, Makes sense to me. Thanks for the change. By the way, I did not think of this as motion so much as a plan that the council could discuss. We could vote on it, or a changed version of it, after discussion, but I don't know if that is really necessary. Unless, of course, we decide to make a plan that varies in terms of dates from the motion adopted in LA. thanks a. On 17 dec 2007, at 17.41, Gomes, Chuck wrote:

I would like to suggest what I think is a friendly amendment to the next to last bullet in the motion: "Any proposal approved by the council will then be sent out for bid by ICANN staff." I suggest it be changed to the following: "Any proposal approved by the council will then be sent to ICANN staff for preparing cost estimates."

It may be that staff would need to request bids but I don't think we should tie there hands if they can do cost estimates without asking for bids. Also, organizations are not always highly motivated to provide bids if there is a high degree of uncertainty that a study would actually be approved.

Chuck

-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org ] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:34 PM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] WHO study agenda item - creation of a template for study proposals

Hi,

In terms of this item of the agenda, the design team has been working, but there is a slight delay in terms of getting the template out for discussion. I expect the template to be available for the council to review starting tomorrow (Tuesday) morning.

I propose the following for the discussion:

- Liz will walk us through the template - Council discussion on the template - council discussion of the next steps in accordance with our decision in LA on studies related to whois:

I propose the following as a starting point for the discussion:

-- The design team works on filling out the template for a number of studies. This team remains open to new members and any GNSO constituency member interested in sponsoring a study is encouraged to join the design team. -- The form is forwarded on the the chairs of the GAC and ALAC because those groups have also indicated an interest in whois studies -- the form can be forwarded to the chairs of other groups if relevant.

- Initial proposals are due on 10 January - The council will review initial proposals for studies at its 17 January meeting. - Any proposal approved by the council will then be sent out for bid by ICANN staff

- Further proposals for studies may be reviewed at a later time.

thanks

a.

Hi, The original charter for the team was to design a template and send it to the council for consideration at its 20 Dec meeting. This template would then be made available to the wider community so that those who want to champion a specific study can fill it out and submit it for council approval. The design team took a slightly different approach originally and has made some progress in detailing the requirements for specific studies, though they have not ben done in terms of the current template and are not yet ready for wider discussion. So one idea that has come up in off list discussions includes having the council check the template to make sure that the council agrees it is being taken in the correct direction and then have the design team continue on with the next step of defining a few studies using that template, as well as passing it on to other ICANN groups who might be interested in contributing ideas for studies. At the very least, I think it is important for the design team to deliver the template to the council for discussion as originally panned. If the council then decides that the template is fine and that best course of action is to send it back to the design team and ask the team fill it out for several different possible studies, I think the design team would be glad to take that task on. On the other hand the council could decide to go with the original plan and make the template available to the wider community. Or we could choose some hybrid approach. At the very least, this is a checkpoint in the progress of the work item. thanks a. On 18 dec 2007, at 03.15, Philip Sheppard wrote:

Avri, why is the detail of a studies template being discussed by Council and not the small group we have set up ? I do not understand this elevation of detailed work to Council. Why do we establish small groups for specific issues if we do not trust them to do the detailed work?

Philip