Hi William I agree with Mary that there is mistrust. I disagree that the solution is an open vote system as a secret ballot actually gives space for everyone to take a position privately. My position is for a secret ballot. Our stakeholder groups will trust us to vote with integrity. Kind regards, Cyril Chua Partner -------- ATMD Bird & Bird LLP 39 Robinson Road #07-01, Robinson Point, Singapore 068911 Tel: (65) 6534 5266 / Fax: (65) 6223 8762 / DID: (65) 6428 9812 http://www.twobirds.com Bird & Bird and Singapore firm Alban Tay Mahtani & de Silva LLP (ATMD) have entered into a global association agreement. For more information on ATMD Bird & Bird LLP in Singapore please click here <http://www.twobirds.com/English/News/PressReleases/Pages/ATMDBirdandBirdLLP....> ________________________________ From: William Drake To: Cyril Chua Cc: GNSO Council Sent: Sat Oct 17 16:19:28 2009 Subject: Re: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate Hi Cyril, On Oct 17, 2009, at 5:11 AM, Cyril Chua wrote: I agree with Mary that there is a lot of mistrust amongst the ICANN stakeholder groups and it would be easier to built trust if everyone is given the space to cast a secret ballot. Actually, what she said (below) was the opposite, that as there is mistrust in the ICANN community generally, transparency and accountability are important, and hence there should not be a secret ballot. Anyway, there's obviously a variety of views that won't be squared through further debate, so let's just vote and move on. As long as there is no gag order and people's right to publicly declare their stance per usual is not violated, those of us who are compelled to abide by transparency will be able to participate regardless and to avail ourselves of that right at the public meeting. Best, Bill From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:18 AM Cc: Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate Hi On Oct 15, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Avri Doria wrote: > Do other council members believe this needs to be a secret ballot? I think that at a time when there seems to be a lot of mistrust amongst the ICANN community and. more importantly, when there are many new entrants/participants and Councillors, it's important to have complete transparency in the GNSO processes. As such, I don't support the idea of a secret ballot in this case. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATMD Bird & Bird LLP is a Singapore law practice registered as a limited liability partnership in Singapore with registration number T08LL0001K. The firm is associated with Bird & Bird, an international legal practice. It is solely a Singapore law practice and is not an affiliate, branch or subsidiary of Bird & Bird or Bird & Bird LLP. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message (including attachments) contains privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not to take any action in reliance on it nor to disseminate, distribute, publish or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please accept our apologies, delete all copies from your system and notify us at mailto:atmdmail@twobirds.com . Unless it relates to the official business of ATMD Bird & Bird LLP, any opinions or matters expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. --------------------------------------------------------------------------