RE: [council] ICANN Board Votes to Enhance New gTLDs Competition
Hi folks Here's a contribution from a question I asked Avri - I thought we had dome something on this but couldn't remember But thanks to Avri here's some info! Cheers Rosemary Rosemary Sinclair Managing Director, ATUG Chairman, INTUG T: +61 2 94958901 F: +61 2 94193889 M: +61 413734490 Email: rosemary.sinclair@atug.org.au Skype: rasinclair Please visit the ATUG website for Updates and Information www.atug.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri@psg.com] Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 5:01 PM To: Rosemary Sinclair Subject: Re: [council] ICANN Board Votes to Enhance New gTLDs Competition Hi, I do remember that point in advice, and in discussions, but I do not believe it was codified anywhere yet. I be wrong. I had to do some search. - It is not in the bylaws or the newly propose council guidelines. - For history the old guidelines (circa 2002 of the council stated (notice the last line): http://gnso.icann.org/council/new-procedures.shtml 2.3 Each Constituency identified in paragraph 1 of this Section shall maintain its recognition, and thus its ability to select GNSO Council representatives, only so long as it in fact represents the interests globally of the stakeholder communities it purports to represent, and shall operate to the maximum extent feasible in an open and transparent manner and consistent with procedures designed to ensure fairness. No individual or entity shall be excluded from participation in a Constituency merely because of participation in another Constituency. - however: In Recommended Common Operating Principles and Participation Guidelines for GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies and Recommendations on a GNSO Database of Community Members For Operations Steering Committee (OSC) Consideration 27 May 2010 http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/draft-csg-recommendations-task-27may10-en.p df we find 2.1.2 j. No legal or natural person should be entitled to join more than one Group as a voting member. which it seems you approved as motion 20100805-1 http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#201008 RESOLVED FURTHER, that the GNSO Council approves the following CSG-WT deliverable which is organized into two sections as follows: * Sections 2.1 & 2.2: Recommended Common Operating Principles and Participation Guidelines for GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies, which Staff has incorporated into a new Chapter 7.0 in the above-referenced GNSO Operating Procedures; and * Section 2.3: Recommendations on a GNSO Database of Community Members. so putting together the old No individual or entity shall be excluded from participation in a Constituency merely because of participation in another Constituency. + the new No legal or natural person should be entitled to join more than one Group as a voting member. You get what you are looking for. sort of. a. On 10 Nov 2010, at 23:05, Rosemary Sinclair wrote:
Hi Avri
Do you know the answer???
Cheers
Rosemary
Rosemary Sinclair Managing Director, ATUG Chairman, INTUG T: +61 2 94958901 F: +61 2 94193889 M: +61 413734490 Email: rosemary.sinclair@atug.org.au Skype: rasinclair
Please visit the ATUG website for Updates and Information www.atug.com.au
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 3:01 PM To: Adrian Kinderis; Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] ICANN Board Votes to Enhance New gTLDs Competition
Can you point to where the Bylaws (or anything else) say that? Alan
At 10/11/2010 08:53 PM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:
Right.
So you can be a member of each. Just not a voting member.
Adrian Kinderis
From: Gomes, Chuck [ mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:47 AM To: Alan Greenberg; Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO Subject: RE: (SCL > 6): [council] ICANN Board Votes to Enhance New gTLDs Competition
I believe the revised Bylaws GNSO provisions require that someone may not vote in more than one SG or Constituency.
Chuck
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [ mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:42 PM To: Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO Subject: Re: (SCL > 6): [council] ICANN Board Votes to Enhance New gTLDs Competition
The old Bylaws said that an organization could be a member of more than one Constituency. I would have sworn that the new Bylaws explicitly said that you could not participate in multiple SG and had to choose, but I cannot find that clause there. Is there a rule in either SG charter about multiple memberships??
Alan
At 10/11/2010 02:18 AM, Adrian Kinderis wrote: Wow!
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-09nov10-en.htm
So what happens to the Contracted Party house? Did they think of that? ;)
Adrian Kinderis
Thanks Rosemary and Avri. I knew I had seen that somewhere but didn't have time to find it yesterday. Chuck From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Rosemary Sinclair Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:07 AM To: Avri Doria; GNSO Council Subject: RE: [council] ICANN Board Votes to Enhance New gTLDs Competition Hi folks Here's a contribution from a question I asked Avri - I thought we had dome something on this but couldn't remember But thanks to Avri here's some info! Cheers Rosemary Rosemary Sinclair Managing Director, ATUG Chairman, INTUG T: +61 2 94958901 F: +61 2 94193889 M: +61 413734490 Email: rosemary.sinclair@atug.org.au Skype: rasinclair Please visit the ATUG website for Updates and Information www.atug.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri@psg.com] Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 5:01 PM To: Rosemary Sinclair Subject: Re: [council] ICANN Board Votes to Enhance New gTLDs Competition Hi, I do remember that point in advice, and in discussions, but I do not believe it was codified anywhere yet. I be wrong. I had to do some search. - It is not in the bylaws or the newly propose council guidelines. - For history the old guidelines (circa 2002 of the council stated (notice the last line): http://gnso.icann.org/council/new-procedures.shtml 2.3 Each Constituency identified in paragraph 1 of this Section shall maintain its recognition, and thus its ability to select GNSO Council representatives, only so long as it in fact represents the interests globally of the stakeholder communities it purports to represent, and shall operate to the maximum extent feasible in an open and transparent manner and consistent with procedures designed to ensure fairness. No individual or entity shall be excluded from participation in a Constituency merely because of participation in another Constituency. - however: In Recommended Common Operating Principles and Participation Guidelines for GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies and Recommendations on a GNSO Database of Community Members For Operations Steering Committee (OSC) Consideration 27 May 2010 http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/draft-csg-recommendations-task-27may10-en.p df we find 2.1.2 j. No legal or natural person should be entitled to join more than one Group as a voting member. which it seems you approved as motion 20100805-1 http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#201008 RESOLVED FURTHER, that the GNSO Council approves the following CSG-WT deliverable which is organized into two sections as follows: * Sections 2.1 & 2.2: Recommended Common Operating Principles and Participation Guidelines for GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies, which Staff has incorporated into a new Chapter 7.0 in the above-referenced GNSO Operating Procedures; and * Section 2.3: Recommendations on a GNSO Database of Community Members. so putting together the old No individual or entity shall be excluded from participation in a Constituency merely because of participation in another Constituency. + the new No legal or natural person should be entitled to join more than one Group as a voting member. You get what you are looking for. sort of. a. On 10 Nov 2010, at 23:05, Rosemary Sinclair wrote:
Hi Avri
Do you know the answer???
Cheers
Rosemary
Rosemary Sinclair
Managing Director, ATUG
Chairman, INTUG
T: +61 2 94958901 F: +61 2 94193889
M: +61 413734490
Email: rosemary.sinclair@atug.org.au
Skype: rasinclair
Please visit the ATUG website for Updates and Information www.atug.com.au
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 3:01 PM
To: Adrian Kinderis; Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO
Subject: RE: [council] ICANN Board Votes to Enhance New gTLDs Competition
Can you point to where the Bylaws (or anything else) say that? Alan
At 10/11/2010 08:53 PM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:
Right.
So you can be a member of each. Just not a voting member.
Adrian Kinderis
From: Gomes, Chuck [ mailto:cgomes@verisign.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:47 AM
To: Alan Greenberg; Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO
Subject: RE: (SCL > 6): [council] ICANN Board Votes to Enhance New gTLDs Competition
I believe the revised Bylaws GNSO provisions require that someone may not vote in more than one SG or Constituency.
Chuck
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [ mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:42 PM
To: Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO
Subject: Re: (SCL > 6): [council] ICANN Board Votes to Enhance New gTLDs Competition
The old Bylaws said that an organization could be a member of more than one Constituency. I would have sworn that the new Bylaws explicitly said that you could not participate in multiple SG and had to choose, but I cannot find that clause there. Is there a rule in either SG charter about multiple memberships??
Alan
At 10/11/2010 02:18 AM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:
Wow!
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-09nov10-en.htm
So what happens to the Contracted Party house? Did they think of that? ;)
Adrian Kinderis
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