Re: [council] Drafting meeting
Dear all, thanks, Liz, for the kind offer. But this is already under the responsibiity of the Programme Sub group of the Council, and our staff member is Glen. Glen and I are coordinating with Diane for a meeting today for some of the Programme committee re Council's and Constituency needs and we are talking to the host. The Council can expect to hear back through that mechanism re options for Council's consideration for the policy spec. Session, and overall program planning for Wellington. The next step for this policy area ifor Council to work, with Olof's support,on advancing the work plan. Until that occurs, it is premature to decide on work methods, beyond the agreement taken in Council for the two days in Wellington. I will leave any further comments on this until Olof has a chance to further his thoughts on the work plan. . Thanks, though, Liz, four your e-mail. Council will hear back from Glen after the Programme Committee meeting and we promise to be very active advocates on Council/constituency behalf. :-) Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: "Liz Williams" <liz.williams@icann.org> Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:54:03 To:"'Bruce Tonkin'" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>, <council@gnso.icann.org> Cc:"'Diane Schroeder'" <diane.schroeder@icann.org> Subject: RE: [council] Drafting meeting Dear All Just a quick note from the staff side. We usually arrive several days before the ICANN meetings to do all the preparation necessary for the Board, Council and other meetings. The proposal to meet for two GNSO days before would have a direct impact on the way in which the staff would plan their involvement. Before we make firm commitments about times/dates/places/logistics could I confer internally and let Council know what would be practical from our side as well. Bruce's ideas about meetings prior to Wellington is a good one -- of course, the Brussels office could be used to facilitate those kinds of meetings for people in Europe and we could work out how to do that. Will get back to everyone ASAP. Liz -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Tonkin Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 2:26 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Drafting meeting Hello Avri,
Probably not a realistic suggestion but one I feel needs to be put forward. Is there any way to arrange for the face to face drafting session to be done at an interim time between Vancouver and Wellington in order to expedite the work and try to meet the by-laws' required timing?
Part of the issue here is that a face-to-face meeting requires significant travel for most Council members - this is a matter of time and cost. E.g it is at least a days travel for me to and from most locations in Europe or USA. Thus the proposal to meet shortly before Wellington was to ensure economies of airfares for those that will most likely be travelling to Wellington anyway. Of course smaller groups of ICANN participants can get together in local regions prior to Wellington, with the Wellington meeting be an opportunity to consolidate the views of prior meetings. Regards, Bruce Tonkin Regards, Marilyn Cade
What would you think about holding a separate meeting for the Council work, perhaps in February, in a reasonably accessible location like Amsterdam or Los Angeles? -- Bret
On 3 dec 2005, at 10.33, Bret Fausett wrote:
What would you think about holding a separate meeting for the Council work, perhaps in February, in a reasonably accessible location like Amsterdam or Los Angeles?
All things being equal with considerations of funding and scheduling, I would be open to such a possibility. Would have preference for an European location over a US location during the second half of the month. a.
anytime after feb 18th in either europe or us would be ok for me.. ken stubbs Avri Doria wrote:
On 3 dec 2005, at 10.33, Bret Fausett wrote:
What would you think about holding a separate meeting for the Council work, perhaps in February, in a reasonably accessible location like Amsterdam or Los Angeles?
All things being equal with considerations of funding and scheduling, I would be open to such a possibility.
Would have preference for an European location over a US location during the second half of the month.
a.
Bret Fausett wrote:
What would you think about holding a separate meeting for the Council work, perhaps in February, in a reasonably accessible location like Amsterdam or Los Angeles?
-- Bret
How do you define "reasonably accessible"? For some of us there may be an accessibility problem by adding one more event onto the problem - for every meeting anew - to find funds for travel and hotel. Apart from this "minor" problem, I understand Brett's suggestion positively. Norbert
Marilyn and all, First of all, I share the view that physical meetings are essential for the substance to be properly addressed and, rest assured, from the staff side we will adapt to the Council's preferences as to timing and venue. While there are other options, a meeting in conjunction with the ICANN Wellington meeting is probably our best bet to get participation from most Council members. At any rate, it's excellent that this option is examined already now by the Programme committee, together with other aspects of the Wellington meeting as such. ...and as to the work plan, we'll revert on that from the staff side. Regards Olof -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:26 PM To: Liz Williams; owner-council@gnso.icann.org; Bruce Tonkin; GNSO Council Cc: Diane Schroeder Subject: Re: [council] Drafting meeting Dear all, thanks, Liz, for the kind offer. But this is already under the responsibiity of the Programme Sub group of the Council, and our staff member is Glen. Glen and I are coordinating with Diane for a meeting today for some of the Programme committee re Council's and Constituency needs and we are talking to the host. The Council can expect to hear back through that mechanism re options for Council's consideration for the policy spec. Session, and overall program planning for Wellington. The next step for this policy area ifor Council to work, with Olof's support,on advancing the work plan. Until that occurs, it is premature to decide on work methods, beyond the agreement taken in Council for the two days in Wellington. I will leave any further comments on this until Olof has a chance to further his thoughts on the work plan. . Thanks, though, Liz, four your e-mail. Council will hear back from Glen after the Programme Committee meeting and we promise to be very active advocates on Council/constituency behalf. :-) Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: "Liz Williams" <liz.williams@icann.org> Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:54:03 To:"'Bruce Tonkin'" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>, <council@gnso.icann.org> Cc:"'Diane Schroeder'" <diane.schroeder@icann.org> Subject: RE: [council] Drafting meeting Dear All Just a quick note from the staff side. We usually arrive several days before the ICANN meetings to do all the preparation necessary for the Board, Council and other meetings. The proposal to meet for two GNSO days before would have a direct impact on the way in which the staff would plan their involvement. Before we make firm commitments about times/dates/places/logistics could I confer internally and let Council know what would be practical from our side as well. Bruce's ideas about meetings prior to Wellington is a good one -- of course, the Brussels office could be used to facilitate those kinds of meetings for people in Europe and we could work out how to do that. Will get back to everyone ASAP. Liz -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Tonkin Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 2:26 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Drafting meeting Hello Avri,
Probably not a realistic suggestion but one I feel needs to be put forward. Is there any way to arrange for the face to face drafting session to be done at an interim time between Vancouver and Wellington in order to expedite the work and try to meet the by-laws' required timing?
Part of the issue here is that a face-to-face meeting requires significant travel for most Council members - this is a matter of time and cost. E.g it is at least a days travel for me to and from most locations in Europe or USA. Thus the proposal to meet shortly before Wellington was to ensure economies of airfares for those that will most likely be travelling to Wellington anyway. Of course smaller groups of ICANN participants can get together in local regions prior to Wellington, with the Wellington meeting be an opportunity to consolidate the views of prior meetings. Regards, Bruce Tonkin Regards, Marilyn Cade
Adding two additional days to what already is shaping up as a long meeting presents its own problems. It's very hard for me to be away from work and family for more than a week. If I give Wellington a day to travel there and a day to return, I'm left with only about five days on the ground. Would love to be able to work within those constraints. Bret
will adapt to the Council's preferences as to timing and venue. While there are other options, a meeting in conjunction with the ICANN Wellington meeting is probably our best bet to get participation from most Council members.
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Avri Doria -
Bret Fausett -
Ken Stubbs -
Marilyn Cade -
Norbert Klein -
Olof Nordling