Remote Participation for Senegal
Glen, Can you provide an update of on the expected availability of remote participation for Senegal? Also to all, if there is any movement toward a US or EU remote participation base, I would be up for that and doing what I could to help cover costs. I think John was asking about this earlier. Any interests? Either way, after further consideration I think I may be attending only remotely. Tim
This makes me mad. I am not mad at Tim, far from it. But why ICANN continually chooses places that forces key stakeholders and contributors to not be able to participate to the fullest. Crazy. Here’s an idea. Let’s build a remote site and EVERYONE go there... LA Marriott anyone? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:24 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Remote Participation for Senegal Glen, Can you provide an update of on the expected availability of remote participation for Senegal? Also to all, if there is any movement toward a US or EU remote participation base, I would be up for that and doing what I could to help cover costs. I think John was asking about this earlier. Any interests? Either way, after further consideration I think I may be attending only remotely. Tim
I agree. The other part that is extremely frustrating is that for those of us not taking ICANN funding, it is impossible to get a hotel room. Every hotel is saying they are completely booked because of all of the rooms that are being reserved by ICANN. So, what is going on? Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy Please note new address: 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166 From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Kinderis Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 7:06 AM To: Tim Ruiz; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Remote Participation for Senegal This makes me mad. I am not mad at Tim, far from it. But why ICANN continually chooses places that forces key stakeholders and contributors to not be able to participate to the fullest. Crazy. Here’s an idea. Let’s build a remote site and EVERYONE go there... LA Marriott anyone? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:24 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Remote Participation for Senegal Glen, Can you provide an update of on the expected availability of remote participation for Senegal? Also to all, if there is any movement toward a US or EU remote participation base, I would be up for that and doing what I could to help cover costs. I think John was asking about this earlier. Any interests? Either way, after further consideration I think I may be attending only remotely. Tim
This is a problem indeed. However, we should also be aware that the reason we go all over the world is to try to reach out to and engage with as many local communities as possible. So it's really probably about getting the right tradeoff between finding the right places to go to and making sure that our destinations are realistic for our key stakeholders and contributors. It would certainly be a crime if, after so many years of service to the Council, people like Kristina and Tim were not able to make their last meeting as Councillors. Stéphane Le 21 juil. 2011 à 13:12, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
I agree. The other part that is extremely frustrating is that for those of us not taking ICANN funding, it is impossible to get a hotel room. Every hotel is saying they are completely booked because of all of the rooms that are being reserved by ICANN.
So, what is going on?
Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy Please note new address: 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Kinderis Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 7:06 AM To: Tim Ruiz; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Remote Participation for Senegal
This makes me mad.
I am not mad at Tim, far from it.
But why ICANN continually chooses places that forces key stakeholders and contributors to not be able to participate to the fullest.
Crazy.
Here’s an idea. Let’s build a remote site and EVERYONE go there...
LA Marriott anyone?
Adrian Kinderis
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:24 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Remote Participation for Senegal
Glen,
Can you provide an update of on the expected availability of remote participation for Senegal?
Also to all, if there is any movement toward a US or EU remote participation base, I would be up for that and doing what I could to help cover costs. I think John was asking about this earlier. Any interests?
Either way, after further consideration I think I may be attending only remotely.
Tim
Hi Adrian Do you mean "to not be able" or "to not prefer"? Just wondering how high the special barrier some folks face is… Thanks Bill On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:
This makes me mad.
I am not mad at Tim, far from it.
But why ICANN continually chooses places that forces key stakeholders and contributors to not be able to participate to the fullest.
Crazy.
Here’s an idea. Let’s build a remote site and EVERYONE go there...
LA Marriott anyone?
Adrian Kinderis
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:24 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Remote Participation for Senegal
Glen,
Can you provide an update of on the expected availability of remote participation for Senegal?
Also to all, if there is any movement toward a US or EU remote participation base, I would be up for that and doing what I could to help cover costs. I think John was asking about this earlier. Any interests?
Either way, after further consideration I think I may be attending only remotely.
Tim
From what I understand it is "not able". Insurance and travel restrictions to the region don't allow it.
Of course, there are many that would "not prefer to" given the above. Adrian Kinderis Chief Executive Officer AusRegistry International Pty Ltd Level 8, 10 Queens Road Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004 Ph: +61 3 9866 3710 Fax: +61 3 9866 1970 Email: adrian@ausregistry.com<mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com> Web: www.ausregistry.com<http://www.ausregistryinternational.com/> - Follow AusRegistry International on Twitter: www.twitter.com/ausregistryint<http://www.twitter.com/ausregistryint> The information contained in this communication is intended for the named recipients only. It is subject to copyright and may contain legally privileged and confidential information and if you are not an intended recipient you must not use, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all copies from your system and notify us immediately. From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch] Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 9:21 PM To: Adrian Kinderis Cc: Tim Ruiz; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Remote Participation for Senegal Hi Adrian Do you mean "to not be able" or "to not prefer"? Just wondering how high the special barrier some folks face is... Thanks Bill On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Adrian Kinderis wrote: This makes me mad. I am not mad at Tim, far from it. But why ICANN continually chooses places that forces key stakeholders and contributors to not be able to participate to the fullest. Crazy. Here's an idea. Let's build a remote site and EVERYONE go there... LA Marriott anyone? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:24 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] Remote Participation for Senegal Glen, Can you provide an update of on the expected availability of remote participation for Senegal? Also to all, if there is any movement toward a US or EU remote participation base, I would be up for that and doing what I could to help cover costs. I think John was asking about this earlier. Any interests? Either way, after further consideration I think I may be attending only remotely. Tim
So are the insurance policies such that basically all of Africa off limits other than MENA and SA? We're setting global policies that Africans have to live with, seems unfortunate if engaging them is off limits.. B On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:
From what I understand it is “not able”. Insurance and travel restrictions to the region don’t allow it.
Of course, there are many that would “not prefer to” given the above.
Adrian Kinderis Chief Executive Officer AusRegistry International Pty Ltd Level 8, 10 Queens Road Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004 Ph: +61 3 9866 3710 Fax: +61 3 9866 1970 Email: adrian@ausregistry.com Web: www.ausregistry.com
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From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch] Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 9:21 PM To: Adrian Kinderis Cc: Tim Ruiz; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Remote Participation for Senegal
Hi Adrian
Do you mean "to not be able" or "to not prefer"?
Just wondering how high the special barrier some folks face is…
Thanks
Bill
On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:
This makes me mad.
I am not mad at Tim, far from it.
But why ICANN continually chooses places that forces key stakeholders and contributors to not be able to participate to the fullest.
Crazy.
Here’s an idea. Let’s build a remote site and EVERYONE go there...
LA Marriott anyone?
Adrian Kinderis
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:24 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Remote Participation for Senegal
Glen,
Can you provide an update of on the expected availability of remote participation for Senegal?
Also to all, if there is any movement toward a US or EU remote participation base, I would be up for that and doing what I could to help cover costs. I think John was asking about this earlier. Any interests?
Either way, after further consideration I think I may be attending only remotely.
Tim
I'm not one to defend the Board, but Senegal has been one of the more stable and calm countries in Africa. That has unfortunately changed for the worst in recent weeks. Alan At 21/07/2011 07:06 AM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:
[...] But why ICANN continually chooses places that forces key stakeholders and contributors to not be able to participate to the fullest.
Crazy.
Hereâs an idea. Letâs build a remote site and EVERYONE go there...
LA Marriott anyone?
Adrian Kinderis
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:24 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Remote Participation for Senegal
Glen,
Can you provide an update of on the expected availability of remote participation for Senegal?
Also to all, if there is any movement toward a US or EU remote participation base, I would be up for that and doing what I could to help cover costs. I think John was asking about this earlier. Any interests?
Either way, after further consideration I think I may be attending only remotely.
Tim
Tim, There will be remote participation for all the meetings in Senegal, certainly the GNSO working sessions over the weekend and all other GNSO related meetings. All meetings except those that are noted as closed on the main ICANN schedule have audio streaming. In Nairobi we had the situation where a number of participants took part from remote hub centers and it worked well, so there is no reason to think that it cannot work again if needed in Senegal. Working lunches can also be so arranged that there is remote participation, however social events are a challenge. Remote participations details for all the meetings will sent out to all the groups before the start of the GNSO working sessions on Saturday, 22 October 2011. Please let me know if you need further information. Thank you. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> http://gnso.icann.org From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz Sent: mercredi 20 juillet 2011 19:24 To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Remote Participation for Senegal Glen, Can you provide an update of on the expected availability of remote participation for Senegal? Also to all, if there is any movement toward a US or EU remote participation base, I would be up for that and doing what I could to help cover costs. I think John was asking about this earlier. Any interests? Either way, after further consideration I think I may be attending only remotely. Tim
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