Dear Steinar, you say:
Another question is whether 60 days is the right number of days. It could be higher or lower.
That was exactly what puzzled me. If I understand the process correctly, there is no reason for having the same number for #1 and #2. Specifically, I would keep the grace period quite long after the initial registration, because there might be a reasonable chance that the affected parties are not all fully aware (e.g. fraudulent action), while after the successful transfer there has been already an interaction. Cheers, Roberto
On 10.11.2021, at 08:45, Steinar Grøtterød via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Gopal,
Thanks for your input.
Re Q3: The 60-days transfer lock after initial registration and successful transfer is today implemented in the Inter-Registrar transfer Policy. The majority of the Registries have these locks included in their RRA, but there is an option to change the 60-days lock policy in a reviewed inter-registrar policy.
Re Q4: Similar to the present option to opt-out of a transfer lock after change of registrant (COR), a reviewed inter-transfer policy can give the option for the Registrant to opt-out of the transfer locks. However, the Registrar may define in their Terms of service that an opt-out cannot be done even though the Registry allow this.
Another question is whether 60 days is the right number of days. It could be higher or lower.
Sorry for confusing wording. My intention was to get some feedback from CPWG.
Regards, Steinar Grøtterød
On 10/11/2021, 06:18, "gopal@annauniv.edu" <gopal@annauniv.edu> wrote:
Dear Steinar Grøtterød,
Thank you for the queries.
My reference for this discussion is:
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/transfer-policy-2016-06-01-en
ICANN's mandatory verification process of any details is of paramount importance.
#1:
The initial registration is frozen after a grace period. Hence I support the 60 - Day Lock - in for any further changes / transfers.
#2:
I suppose this.
#3: Registrar Only ?
Transfer is only through the Registrar.
#4:
Registrants cannot transfer.
Quick Notes:
Assumption:
Contact Updates and Transfers are separate. Contact Updates have the opt-out provision even now. Transfers do not.
Registrar & Registrant
If one opts-out of the transfer lock for contact update, one will not have to wait 60 days to transfer it. But one will still have to wait for any other transfer lock to lapse.
Whois Privacy updates are exempt from such lock-ins.
Questions for a quick check:
How does one ensure that there are no other locks ?
Are there any Generic Top Level Domains (gTLD) and Country Codes that are not effected by this policy?
Sincerely,
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On 2021-11-09 23:14, Steinar Grøtterød via CPWG wrote:
Dear all,
At the TPR WG Meeting on Nov 9, 2021, the 60-days locks were discussed. The present policy – and the majority of Registry Operators, have a 60-days transfer lock after the initial registration of a domain name AND a 60-days lock after a successful inter-registrar transfer.
Based on the discussion in the TPR WG, I would like to hear the CPWG opinion by asking the following:
1. Are we in favor of keeping the 60-days lock after the initial registration of a domain name?
2. Are we in favor of keeping the 60-days lock after a successful transfer of a domain name?
3. Could the above be optional?
4. Should the Registrant has the option to opt-out?
I did not have the time to discuss this with the At-Large TPR members and observers, hence will not ask for a poll. But hopefully CPWG can express their view at the CPWG call on Nov 10, 2021.
Regards,
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