Its one reason why the institutional memory is so important. I vividly recall a totally flummoxed OCL after that revelation and the renewed push in the Applicant Support WG for greater outreach effort, especially in the global South. We talked about expanding recognition of what amounts to private sector interests in the global South; chambers of commerce and industry, professional organizations and the like. We explored how they may be reached and pushed for diversifying the channels of communications; we positioned [drive time ] radio as one underexploited channel, even about retrofitting the traveling 'dog n pony' shows for smaller audiences in capitals off their beaten path. All this went nowhere fast. And that, IMHO, was largely because of attitude; I've always had to remind folks that when all is said and done, ICANN is socialized as an American corporation...and comes with all that this entail. It would be most important to get a reading of the current corporate fixation beyond 'enough-already-lets-get-to-the-new-round. -Carlton ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:41 AM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Thanks for all of this story Vanda. You know, the sad thing about this is that, in those days when Rod was CEO, I confronted him about this and he made it quite clear that this was a clear business decision. The ICANN roadshow went to the "markets" it thought would generate huge interest and concrete applications. I gather that times have changed now, but I would be interested to find out if the current ICANN CEO and the Board still see the new gTLD round as a set of "markets" to address, rather than basing the round on the public interest. Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 08/08/2018 19:13, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
So - the point here is just one: MAKE HUGE PROMOTION IN SOUTH HEMISPHERE
And focus on making a splash in the Pacific region as well..
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 4:40 AM, Vanda Scartezini < vanda.scartezini@gmail.com> wrote:
Some comments on Christopher points
a) Community Priority Evaluations what was relevant during 2012 was the fact that all the effort asked for community to prove support ( ltos of money to do this around the world ) was ignored during the analysis period and several community ( I have promoted few) faced auction though their competitors had no prove of community interest. Then, if we will impose some demands to community we need to make sure those items will be considered and none without similar qualifications will be compete with them.
b)metrics Metrics for end users are security, respect to privacy and " continuity". If organization has no capacity to support initial investment so it will fail in a couple years and all registrant had done to promote the new domain will be waste of money.
I have been promoting here 2012 round. But it was this, myself talking with several organizations to enter. We had a reasonable success but the reality was there was NO PROMOTION of 2012 round in the South Hemisphere. Nothing in digital news in local languages. ICANN came one day to Sao Paulo Brazil and I asked people to join - we got 50 attendees . We had 8 ( from 11 applied in Brazil) that attended this meeting . Nothing else was done in South America. When I have done a survey in 2015 talking with big companies around South America I found just 1 that said they have no intention to apply if there was another round, all others responded YES, they had interest, please alert us, if there will be another round. So - the point here is just one: MAKE HUGE PROMOTION IN SOUTH HEMISPHERE
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On 8/8/18, 07:49, "GTLD-WG on behalf of wilkinson christopher" < gtld-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of cw@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
Good afternoon:
I generally concur with Holly's priorities in addition to my questions regarding Competition and Jurisdiction.
Regards
CW
> El 8 de agosto de 2018 a las 7:09 Holly Raiche < h.raiche@internode.on.net> escribió: > > > Folks > > Having gone through the Report and Appendix C, the issues that ALAC has been concerned with before and - I am suggesting - should concentrate on in its response include: > > Community Priority Evaluations > These applicants had priority, but the definition was narrow and few applications made it through on this. The definition needs to be revisited, and the evaluation more transparent and predictable- and finalised BEFORE evaluation > > Metrics > Unde the general heading, the question is asked whether there should be success metrics. We said - and I believe should continue to say - have metrics as to what success looks like from an ALAC perspective. > > PICS > Under global public interest, the question is asked whether there should continue to be PICS. They are there because we argued for them - and still should > > Applications from outside the US/Europe > We expressed concern that most of the applications came from the US and, to a lesser extent, Europe. We said this came down to a number of factors, including > Length and complexity of Applicant Guidebook - it should be more accessible, comprehensible, in different languages > Need for applicant support - maybe a dedicated round for developing countries > Possibility of variable fees > IDNs > The report mentions need for further work to be done on Universal Acceptance > > > Happy to discuss > > Holly > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CPWG mailing list > CPWG@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg > _______________________________________________ > registration-issues-wg mailing list > registration-issues-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/registration-issues-wg _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ GTLD-WG mailing list GTLD-WG@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gtld-wg
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