Dear all,
The only obvious defense, for registrants who want their customers to arrive reliably at their website, will be defensive registrations. Lots of defensive registrations. (I did a quick calculation for Citi Bank. 4 letter domain name. Close to 300 readily confusable variations. Longer names would have more, of course.)
It might very well be that this is an issue to start with? SSR2 will likely recommend measures to be taken here.
In general though, it is quite ridiculous if you think about it — I have to pay for multiple domains to protect myself because contracted parties do not have their house in order… (Obviously, I am overstating slightly, on purpose)
All the best Laurin
On Jan 6, 2020, at 17:45, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Bill, That's certainly an interesting take that I hadn't thought about. The reasoning from Evan, that make sense to me, is that higher prices would make it less likely that people would register the fraudulent names in the first place, making defensive registrations less necessary. Of course, for truly premium names a small price hike will NOT make a difference but at volume it might. I'll noodle that more. My job is facilitator here so my opinion doesn't really matter. I'm just not interested in a knee jerk emotional response from At-Large. Jonathan
From: Bill Jouris <b_jouris@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 11:37 AM To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>; Nat Cohen <ncohen@telepathy.com>; Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Cc: cpwg@icann.org <cpwg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CPWG] Verisign
Jonathan,
In your last paragraph, you say: "Individual end users don’t care about the wholesale price of domains. They care about whether they’re getting to the site they intend, that the site won’t infect their machine with malware, that the site won’t commit fraud on them, etc. etc...."
But that does give individual end users a stake in domain name prices. Thanks to the IDN effort, we are about to see a spike in the potential for DNS abuse -- specifically the easy opportunity (thanks to ICANN's approach) to generate quite misleading domain names.
The only obvious defense, for registrants who want their customers to arrive reliably at their website, will be defensive registrations. Lots of defensive registrations. (I did a quick calculation for Citi Bank. 4 letter domain name. Close to 300 readily confusable variations. Longer names would have more, of course.)
If the price of registrations goes up, they will do fewer defensive registrations. Which means end users will have more trouble reliably getting where they want to go. Which, I submit, we do care about.
Bill Jouris
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