To be clear, I haven't "figured out" anything. Here's what I see: 1. #SaveDotOrg is in active recruitment mode. Thanks to Evan, I was introduced to them so that I could better understand their positions and perhaps gain their feedback on any advice we might deliver to the board. 2. EFF is one of the founding members of #SaveDotOrg 3. EFF is made up primarily of lawyers who take folks to court to protect our civil liberties. They are very good and generally very process oriented. 4. The NRO is regarded as an organization free of conflicts when it comes to domain name policy. They are who I would recruit. 5. The interesting wording in their letter "We have therefore agreed to issue an Inspection Request to ICANN..." 6. Kevin Murphy seems to be suspecting something similar when he says "makes me wonder (aloud, it seems) whether the ASO had received any nudges from other members of the EC before filing the request." I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with it but I'm always interested in the genesis of such a, as Alan put it, "historic action." Make sense? Jonathan ________________________________ From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:17 PM To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>; Christopher Wilkinson <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu>; cpwg@icann.org <cpwg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CPWG] PIR sale… Hello Jonathan, Kindly find inline: Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos On Thu, 2 Jan 2020, 22:17 Jonathan Zuck, <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote: I suspect, from reading how carefully this is worded, that EFF is behind this. Very interesting tactic. SO: Do you mind elaborating further on this? Am trying to understand the connection between EFF and the NRO that you've figured out. Happy new year to everyone. Regards Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.Innovatorsnetwork.org<http://www.Innovatorsnetwork.org> ________________________________ From: CPWG <cpwg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cpwg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 12:59:15 PM To: lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu>>; cpwg@icann.org<mailto:cpwg@icann.org> <cpwg@icann.org<mailto:cpwg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CPWG] PIR sale… Thanks Christopher. Unless I missed something, this is a rather historic action. It is the FIRST time the accountability powers given to the ICANN community with its new Bylaws have been used in a proactive way, and by the part of the ICANN Community least expected to intervene when not directly impacted. Alan At 01/01/2020 08:51 AM, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote: FYI The Number Resource Organization (NRO) Issues Inspection Request to ICANN Concerning the .ORG Sale<https://circleid.us15.list-manage.com/track/click?u=71b27c0808a16ff6f58bfc4f...> CW _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG@icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG@icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.