Gentlemen, this was 10+ years ago. We live in a very different ICANN today and the ALAC's standing is way better than it used to be in the wider scheme of things. Just look at the composition of the ICANN Board and notice that it is much less industry friendly than it used to be. Some members of our community are lead figures that actively balance interests. Kindest regards, Olivier On 19/11/2022 20:51, Carlton Samuels via CPWG wrote:
I would not wish to speak for Evan but having sat with him on the ALAC, I can tell you he has argued fiercely - and consistently - in opposition to the ALAC being a "hood ornament" to the ICANN multistakeholder model.
That is from our assessment - and jointly held belief - we should resist the role seemingly designed for the At-Large; a fig leaf for the dominant and pole position of domainer/industry interests in ICANN's affairs.
Carlton
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On Fri, 18 Nov 2022 at 15:15, David Mackey via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Evan,
I don't want to add to the specifics of the .ORG/ICANN event, but I believe At-Large should remain vigilant against unaccountable and untransparent policy processes.
I was on a zoom call this week where Roger McNamee used the phrase "the hood ornaments of public participation". He was referring to organizations like IETF, W3C, etc, not ICANN specifically, but if not careful, ICANN At-Large can turn into a "hood ornament of public participation". It's a valid concern.
Cheers, David
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 11:17 AM Evan Leibovitch via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
I almost forgot.
<https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/cerf-to-botterman-29apr...> Vint personally intervened with the ICANN Board to support the sale to Ethos <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/cerf-to-botterman-29apr...>
That's not just a "comment from his part in favour of the operation". That's direct advocacy, attempting to influence ICANN.
- Evan
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 9:32 AM Roberto Gaetano via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
just one short comment: Vint Cerf had nothing to do with the attempted sale of PIR, and I have never heard any comment from his part in favour of the operation
r.
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