And of course what I've been doing is updating the google spreadsheet that Evin created, copying in the names of the drafters that volunteered and notes on any resolutions we reached on what we wanted to say. I guess I haven't been doing a good enough job of managing this since everyone is going a separate way. I too don't really care how the comments come at this point. I just want to see the drafters drafting but drafting based on what we DECIDED on the call, not just what you personally believe. This is REALLY important. I should have the google spreadsheet updated with everything from Justine's doc shortly. Again, if it's too difficult to use, we can do something else or I can continue to try and corral it. For your records, here’s the spreadsheet that Evin created: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1agNhbXfXLPQIRTGjC-8U-l534SWpbnsiapi-... -----Original Message----- From: GTLD-WG <gtld-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> On Behalf Of Justine Chew Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 9:10 PM To: cpwg@icann.org Subject: Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Questions --- where are the answers? Dear all, I have duly posted on the designated wiki page and will continue to do the same, where feasible. At the same time, as Marita and Maureen indicated, I have a Google Doc (a *word doc*, not spreadsheet) to track all comments posted either by email or on the wiki (and the original spreadsheet as far as I could establish)) (ps. Yes, Maureen, it incorporates whatever email responses/threads which have come to my attention and which I interpret as falling under a certain section) If folks prefer to use the wiki, then by all means do so. See: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=88573813 If folks prefer to use a Google Doc then by all means do so on mine (link is here <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rlGb86PXT50tYN33WHtwi94trFpoAoB6r63O_v6A...>, suggest mode on). And if there's a section which you see on the Annex C – Table of Preliminary Recommendations, Options and Questions for Community Input <https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/new-gtlds/subsequent-procedures-initial-ann...> which you don't find on this Google Doc, it would be because I gathered from CPWG calls that we don't think comment is needed on those. If you feel otherwise, please get in touch with me and I can include a missing section onto this Google Doc. What I really care about is that we get more input. Regards, Justine Chew ----- On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 09:06, Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote:
Agree Maureen - which is why I suggested that there is one please for all comments on the wiki - BUT THEN under that one heading - separate pages, one for each topic that we agreed we’d respond to.
Yes, it’s big, but we need to make it easy for everyone to comment
H On 22 Aug 2018, at 10:51 am, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Unfortunately the wiki does not allow you to specify what you are actually commenting on.. when you have a big block of text. Unless you specify the actual recommendation you are referring to, among the thousands that they have.
Whereas the google doc is organised into the proper sections with their related recommendations. And you only have to scroll down.
It also allows you to enter comments that are specific to the text. or to write in the space given.
Also, I presume Justine has added emails that relate to specific topics, to the relevant sections of the google doc.
Marita and i have responded on this doc which for me is easier because you can see clearly which sections I feel I can respond to.
But we need more input by others. I am expecting RALO leaders as well as ALAC and other ALS and individual members to participate in this activity.
This is a biggie for us, yet it is exactly the same community response we had when we first had to provide a comment on this activity, and I was only able to get one person per section to help out.
Pitiful.
M
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote:
I agree with Olivier - we need a good management of this issue.
My preference (as usual) is that all comments should be in one place. And my vote is for the wiki - since it is something we are all familiar with and already part of the ICANN website. And it may be an idea to split the SubPro questions into different wiki pages since each topic includes several questions by the SubPro group and it means less scrolling to come to a topic. My suggestion would be to have all comments on the wiki, with a page listing each of the issues raised that we are commenting on, so people can just click on the issue(s) they want to contribute to.
Holly On 22 Aug 2018, at 2:58 am, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Hello all,
I am reading the comments/questions sent by each of the volunteers for each section, especially all the ones which Justine has sent out -- on https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=88573813
There are so many questions per section, I find it really difficult to respond to them. I also responded to some of the same questions on the Google Doc on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1agNhbXfXLPQIRTGjC-8U-l534SWpb nsiapi-fi5mzFw/edit?usp=sharing but I found that full spreadsheet way too overwhelming which is the reason why I do not think many people contributed.
We need to find a solution to this problem quickly.
1. do we create a separate WIKI page for each sub-section, with all the questions for each section? Or 2. do we create a survey for each sub-section, so people can answer the questions simply and the collated responses would be easily accessed by the penholders? Or 3. do we create a separate Google Doc for each sub-section and people can comment on it? Or 4. do we use something else, another tool, another way to collect responses?
Or do we get each penholder to write a proposed text and then get a vote going to find out the support for each of the responses given in the draft by the penholder?
I am asking this because time is ticking and I am *very* concerned about the lack of progress at this stage to get a coordinated response out. So we need to think creatively and we need to think fast.
Kindest regards,
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