The Operational Design Phase (ODP) is a ICANN Org staff analysis of the SSAD to inform the Board (and the community) prior to the Board making a decision on whether to implement it or not. On 20 December 2021, the ICANN Org presented and early snapshot of where they are to the GNSO Council and that was followed bby an in camera (private) discussion within the GNSO Council including those EPDP members appointed by the GNSO. The presentation and comments was recorded (but not the private discussion afterwards). The session can be found at https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/Bf0Oxue4R9KAxaGqvfPRJtLzXYmhFAzGGws0cPZCyK0oz.... The presentation is at https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/ssad-odp-discussion-gnso-council.... It makes particularly good (although not clear) reading. At this point, cost estimates are $2M0-27M to implement and $14M-$104M for annual operational costs with a 3-4 year development following an estimated 2 year detailed specification. Following this, the GNSO Council published a paper giving possible future alternatives, and that paper was discussed in a meeting (again GNSO Council plus GNSO-appointed EPDP Members. This time the meeting was open to observers and was recorded. It can be found at https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/EPDP+Phase+2+Follow+.... It is very interesting. Alan