Agree we shouldn't just assert things, especially without showing consequences. We need to get the conversation going, not end it prematurely Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.Innovatorsnetwork.org<http://www.Innovatorsnetwork.org> ________________________________ From: GTLD-WG <gtld-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 12:50:45 AM To: ICANN At-Large Staff Cc: Bartlett Morgan; Joanna Kulesza; cpwg@icann.org Subject: Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] Reminder - Today by 17:00 UTC: ACTION/ALAC and CPWG Members: Statement on Evolving ICANN’s Multistakeholder Model All, Thanks for the efforts that have been put into drafting the statement. I understand that we’re finalising our contribution, although we still have a week before the deadline. I just want to note for the record that, following comments during yesterday’s call that ALAC/At-Large should not only be more forceful in conveying its message but should also be as ’S.M.A.R.T.’ as possible when doing so (both of which I agree with), text like the one on page 4: 'What we have currently is an unbalanced multistakeholder model in which some parties have far more power than others. For an example of how our community is affected, At-Large works in the best interests of more than 4 billionend users on the Internet, but has only one seat on the ICANN Board. We have also been underrepresented in the current EPDP, which may well carry through to other applications of the “PDP 3.0” model’ in my opinion is quite ‘aggressive’ however it lacks substantiation. Both when it comes to the ‘some parties have far more power than others’ and the ‘examples’ that follow. Without stating an opinion whether I agree or not, I think that making these bold type of statements while not being S.M.A.R.T. and rational in our argumentation, brings a risk that our suggestions are not taken on board and into consideration. And can have an undesired effect on how the At-Large, as the representative of end-users, is perceived as a serious counterpart in deliberations within an ICANN governance context. thanks Bastiaan *** Please note that this communication is confidential, legally privileged, and subject to a disclaimer: https://www.ams-ix.net/ams/email-disclaimer ***
On 3 Jun 2019, at 08:59, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
A kind reminder to please make final comments on the ALAC Statement on Evolving ICANN’s Multistakeholder Model today, Monday, June 03 by 17:00 UTC.
Please make any final comments, if needed, by edits on the Word Doc (attached), comments to the At-Large workspace, or by replying to staff/Evin.
Thank you,
ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org Facebook: facebook.com/icannatlarge Twitter: @ICANNAtLarge
From: Evin Erdogdu <evin.erdogdu@icann.org> on behalf of ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> Date: Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 2:43 PM To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>, John Laprise <jlaprise@gmail.com>, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>, Sebastien Bachollet <sebicann@bachollet.fr>, Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris@gmail.com>, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net>, Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com>, Bartlett Morgan <bartlett.morgan@gmail.com>, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob@gmail.com>, Joanna Kulesza <joannakulesza@gmail.com>, Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>, Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net>, Kan Kaili <kankaili@gmail.com>, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>, Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg>, "cpwg@icann.org" <cpwg@icann.org> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org>, Evin Erdogdu <evin.erdogdu@icann.org> Subject: ACTION/ALAC and CPWG Members by 03 June 17:00 UTC: Statement on Evolving ICANN’s Multistakeholder Model
Dear ALAC and CPWG Members,
The Google Doc has been closed for the ALAC Statement on Evolving ICANN’s Multistakeholder Model, and the final draft of the version is attached in Word for final comment by Monday, June 03 at 17:00 UTC.
Please make any final comments, if needed, by edits on the Word Doc (attached), comments to the At-Large workspace, or by replying to staff/Evin.
Kind Regards,
ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org Facebook: facebook.com/icannatlarge Twitter: @ICANNAtLarge
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