Dear Christopher and All, Thank you all for your input - to confirm, I acknowledged receipt of Christopher's comments on the mailing list and thanked him for contributing. I am not endorsing anyone's specific comments, but encouraging them all! I will draft the cover letter to the statement shortly, and will coordinate with Marita and the penholders on sending to comment in the coming days. Best, Evin ________________________________ From: cw@christopherwilkinson.eu <cw@christopherwilkinson.eu> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:04 PM To: Maureen Hilyard Cc: Marita Moll; cpwg@icann.org; Evin Erdogdu; Nigel Hickson; comex@wallonie-isoc.org Subject: [Ext] Re: [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] tomorrow's discussion re: multistakeholder model Dear Maureen: I don’t quite understand the urgency of these deadlines, perhaps I have missed something. In any event, a final ‘official’ Executive Summary has not yet been proposed. <I would like to see that, even if my contribution is attenuated (or ignored.) As I said on the Wiki, I think that Siva’s encouragement for MS governance, actually goes too far in the face of the shortcomings of ICANN’s MS structures, as described in the report. I also believe that it goes beyond anything that ICANN.org [icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ICANN.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY...> has been saying in the Geneva UN IG discussions. TBC. Regards CW ALS - ISOC Wallonia BE. PS: Evin for the Staff, actually acknowledged receipt of my draft, quite positively. But community consensus should take precedence … Thank you Evin!! On 31 May 2019, at 21:20, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> wrote: Christopher You have time to put in a personal submission. I can appreciate what Marita is saying that the current statement has been formed by discussion within the CPWG over a number of calls and cannot easily be changed without consultation and possible changes that there is no time to make. Perhaps in the executive summary it may state that a late alternative view was proposed and an individual submission to the public comment has been suggested. Maureen On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 7:59 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Dear Christopher, Evin needs to have this by this weekend in order to process the thing on time. So, it will be over by Wednesday's call. And "no other comments" cannot be assumed as support for your intervention. As the chief penholder, I feel the need to reflect the content properly in the summary, not start another discussion. Unless other people chime in, that's my position. Marita On 5/31/2019 1:00 PM, cw@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:cw@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote: Dear Marita: Thankyou. However, since there is not a final text of the Executive Summary, I would wish to maintain my proposed draft. There is another CPWG on Wednesday evening (19.00 UTC) when we could review this and any other eventual proposals. I consider that my draft does in fact support the body of the opinion. I note that there have been no other comments meanwhile. I can’t apologise for coming in ‘late’ to this; recent CPWG schedules have been very challenging here for several reasons. Furthermore, a lot of time has been spent on EPDP, whereas in the longer term multi-stakeholder strategy is far more important. I maintain my comment. Best regards Christopher. On 31 May 2019, at 16:19, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Hi Christopher. I totally think your points are great -- but it has not been part of the discussion we have had so far in three conference calls so I don't feel, at this point, that I have permission to pursue this line of thinking. The summary needs to be a summary of what is already in the body of the document, not an intro to another document. We might be able to use it in the next iteration of this exercise which will not end here. Marita On 5/29/2019 2:10 PM, cw@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:cw@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote: PS: In the penultimate line, replace’ organisation’ by’ community'. CW On 29 May 2019, at 20:00, cw@christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:cw@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote: Good evening, Further to today's CPWG Call, I would like to submit the following text as a contribution fo the Executive Summary: … still to be completed … "Otherwise, the international perception of our unique experiment in multi-stakeholder governance will be undermined. Indeed the imbalances within the ICANN community – described and discussed in this paper – go well beyond dysfunctional consensus building, and nowadays have significant economic, political and social consequences which disproportionately privilege incumbent stakeholders at the expense of others, both present and in the future, within and beyond the ICANN structure. The current review of Evolving ICANN's Multi-stakeholder Model needs to look well beyond the internal relationships between the Supporting Organisations and Advisory Committees, and address the question as to how the present arrangements are viewed more widely, elsewhere in the world. In most other regulated sectors of activity, companies and public authorities expect the allocation and supervision of public resources to benefit from decisions taken by independent agencies which are normally careful to avoid conflicts of interest, insider trading or collusion among incumbents. Insofar as ICANN is nowadays managing the allocation, and supervising the use of, quite vast economic resources, our present structure and performance likely appears to many as quite unusual. Thus, arguably, the declared advantages of the multi-stakeholder model no longer outweigh, in our case, the disadvantages arising from the particular structure that has evolved in ICANN during the past two decades, and which are discussed in some detail in this report. Accordingly the necessary rebalancing of participation and powers within the ICANN organisation is in fact an essential factor in global internet Governance (IG) at large. It would also enhance the efficiency and transparency of our decisions and policies." Regards Christopher Wilkinson PS: I shall endeavour to post this text to the Wiki as a Comment later today. On 29 May 2019, at 02:40, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Hello cpwg members. Please take a look at the google doc re: comment on the MS model BEFORE the call. There is a document, and there are comments on the document you might want to address. If no one has issues with the document or with my responses to comments made to the document, then we won't have much to discuss. I don't have any slides to present. The document itself will be our reference point. https://docs.google.com/document/d/13nLdYeIB2wbTERgBdiE55z0RnM69F-nSXbrF4RwU... 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