Applicant Support GGP (Task 3)
Dear all, I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive financial and non-financial support. The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the next round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP). Please take a look at the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Final Report <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/153520393/SubPro%20-%20Fina...> (starting on page 71 on the Applicant Support topic). The working group started working in November and we have had 2 meetings so far. We have 6 tasks, and as homework have been asked to review tasks 3, 4 and 5. As a recap, here are the tasks: 1. Task 1 - Review the 2011 Final Report of the Joint Applicant Support Working Group and the 2012 implementation of the Applicant Support program in detail, to serve as resources for other Applicant Support related questions/tasks. 2. Task 2 - Working with ICANN org staff as appropriate, identify experts with expertise to aid in tasks 3, 4, and 5. 3. Task 3 – Analyze the set of suggested metrics in Implementation Guidance 17.9 and propose which ones should be prioritized. The set of prioritized metrics is NOT limited to what is identified in 17.9. 4. Task 4 – Identify any other appropriate metrics and measures of success to help in identifying the necessary program elements and measuring program success after the fact. In identifying the suggested set of metrics, propose how data can be collected, how metrics can be measured, who can collect the data, as well as what represents success. 5. Task 5 – Consider, and to the extent feasible, suggest how the “outreach, education, business case development, and application evaluation” elements of the Applicant Support Program may be impacted by the identified metrics and measures of success. For example, based on the success metrics for Awareness and Education, this may impact the approach for performing outreach and education. To the extent feasible, suggest an approach to outreach, education, business case development, and application evaluation assistance. 6. Task 6 - Recommend a methodology for allocating financial support where there is inadequate funding for all qualified applicants. We discussed Tasks 1, 2 & 3 today and I captured some initial feedback on Task 3 (analyzing and prioritising metrics identified in 17.9 - noted in this document <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2022/draft/draft-subpro-gg...>), and what we can take back to the GGP: - Set clear objectives of what we want to see achieved from the applicant support program (e.g. what are potential applicants?). - Portfolio applications (multiple applications for gTLDs) - Is it possible to put a cap on the number of applicants? (Note: Limiting the number is complex and there will be objections from people who want to submit multiple applications) - ICANN should make it clear that there are policy issues behind the metrics We shall post this on the wiki <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/GNSO+Guidance+Process+%28GGP%29+...> to help with discussions next week, but happy to get the discussion started. Best wishes, Sarah
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 AM Sarah T. Kiden via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive financial and non-financial support.
Actually, it didn't enable anyone, there were zero successful applicants under the original program. Much work was spent on the program with no effective benefit (except for painful lessons learned by the team). The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the next
round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP).
How benevolent of them, considering that Applicant Support was started as an ALAC/GAC initiative, initially with explicit LACK of GNSO support and in some corners active hostility. When did the GNSO acquire the ability to impose its "guidance" on the Advisory Committees? I must have missed that direction in the Bylaws. - Evan
+1. I saw the announcement, responded and volunteered to assist. Not even an acknowledgement. FWIW, both Evan and I served time on the original WG. For full disclosure, the NCSG membership served on the WG as well. Carlton ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 10:30, Evan Leibovitch via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 AM Sarah T. Kiden via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive financial and non-financial support.
Actually, it didn't enable anyone, there were zero successful applicants under the original program. Much work was spent on the program with no effective benefit (except for painful lessons learned by the team).
The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the next
round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP).
How benevolent of them, considering that Applicant Support was started as an ALAC/GAC initiative, initially with explicit LACK of GNSO support and in some corners active hostility.
When did the GNSO acquire the ability to impose its "guidance" on the Advisory Committees? I must have missed that direction in the Bylaws.
- Evan
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Hi Evan and Sarah, It would be helpful for us if we get the information on the *number of applications of earlier zero successful applicants under the original program*. Regards / Md. Jahangir Hossain Member, Board of Trustees Internet Society Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrjahangir/ https://internetsociety.org.bd/ On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:48 PM Carlton Samuels via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
+1.
I saw the announcement, responded and volunteered to assist. Not even an acknowledgement.
FWIW, both Evan and I served time on the original WG. For full disclosure, the NCSG membership served on the WG as well.
Carlton
============================== *Carlton A Samuels*
*Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 10:30, Evan Leibovitch via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 AM Sarah T. Kiden via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive financial and non-financial support.
Actually, it didn't enable anyone, there were zero successful applicants under the original program. Much work was spent on the program with no effective benefit (except for painful lessons learned by the team).
The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the next
round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP).
How benevolent of them, considering that Applicant Support was started as an ALAC/GAC initiative, initially with explicit LACK of GNSO support and in some corners active hostility.
When did the GNSO acquire the ability to impose its "guidance" on the Advisory Committees? I must have missed that direction in the Bylaws.
- Evan
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Dear all, I am a newcomer to this group / mailing list and generally to ICANN work. I recently joined the first Pilot Transition Program (based on Applicant Support Program), and during our call this past week, Edmon Chung was introduced as the only "successful" applicant (DotKids, DotAsia). Mouloud. Mouloud Khelif, M.Sc., MBA, MAS. Strategy, Governance, Policy Consultant https://www.linkedin.com/in/mouloud-khelif-12016b/ +41 76 679 8864 On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 5:09 AM Jahangir Hossain via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Evan and Sarah,
It would be helpful for us if we get the information on the *number of applications of earlier zero successful applicants under the original program*.
Regards / Md. Jahangir Hossain Member, Board of Trustees Internet Society Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrjahangir/ https://internetsociety.org.bd/
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:48 PM Carlton Samuels via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
+1.
I saw the announcement, responded and volunteered to assist. Not even an acknowledgement.
FWIW, both Evan and I served time on the original WG. For full disclosure, the NCSG membership served on the WG as well.
Carlton
============================== *Carlton A Samuels*
*Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 10:30, Evan Leibovitch via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 AM Sarah T. Kiden via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive financial and non-financial support.
Actually, it didn't enable anyone, there were zero successful applicants under the original program. Much work was spent on the program with no effective benefit (except for painful lessons learned by the team).
The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the next
round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP).
How benevolent of them, considering that Applicant Support was started as an ALAC/GAC initiative, initially with explicit LACK of GNSO support and in some corners active hostility.
When did the GNSO acquire the ability to impose its "guidance" on the Advisory Committees? I must have missed that direction in the Bylaws.
- Evan
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Mouloud, as that pilot, has some excellent and extensive resources perhaps you might share a few key points from your learning with Jahangir and others as background briefing... On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 05:11 mouloud khelif via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all, I am a newcomer to this group / mailing list and generally to ICANN work. I recently joined the first Pilot Transition Program (based on Applicant Support Program), and during our call this past week, Edmon Chung was introduced as the only "successful" applicant (DotKids, DotAsia). Mouloud.
Mouloud Khelif, M.Sc., MBA, MAS. Strategy, Governance, Policy Consultant https://www.linkedin.com/in/mouloud-khelif-12016b/ +41 76 679 8864
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 5:09 AM Jahangir Hossain via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Evan and Sarah,
It would be helpful for us if we get the information on the *number of applications of earlier zero successful applicants under the original program*.
Regards / Md. Jahangir Hossain Member, Board of Trustees Internet Society Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrjahangir/ https://internetsociety.org.bd/
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:48 PM Carlton Samuels via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
+1.
I saw the announcement, responded and volunteered to assist. Not even an acknowledgement.
FWIW, both Evan and I served time on the original WG. For full disclosure, the NCSG membership served on the WG as well.
Carlton
============================== *Carlton A Samuels*
*Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 10:30, Evan Leibovitch via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 AM Sarah T. Kiden via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive financial and non-financial support.
Actually, it didn't enable anyone, there were zero successful applicants under the original program. Much work was spent on the program with no effective benefit (except for painful lessons learned by the team).
The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the next
round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP).
How benevolent of them, considering that Applicant Support was started as an ALAC/GAC initiative, initially with explicit LACK of GNSO support and in some corners active hostility.
When did the GNSO acquire the ability to impose its "guidance" on the Advisory Committees? I must have missed that direction in the Bylaws.
- Evan
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Thanks Cheryl, Justine and Jahangir, I would be pleased to share with Jahangir and anyone here some of the resources and discussions we are having within the first Policy Transition Program (PTP) pilot - we just completed module 1. Cheers Mouloud On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 12:12 AM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
Mouloud, as that pilot, has some excellent and extensive resources perhaps you might share a few key points from your learning with Jahangir and others as background briefing...
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 05:11 mouloud khelif via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all, I am a newcomer to this group / mailing list and generally to ICANN work. I recently joined the first Pilot Transition Program (based on Applicant Support Program), and during our call this past week, Edmon Chung was introduced as the only "successful" applicant (DotKids, DotAsia). Mouloud.
Mouloud Khelif, M.Sc., MBA, MAS. Strategy, Governance, Policy Consultant https://www.linkedin.com/in/mouloud-khelif-12016b/ +41 76 679 8864
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 5:09 AM Jahangir Hossain via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Evan and Sarah,
It would be helpful for us if we get the information on the *number of applications of earlier zero successful applicants under the original program*.
Regards / Md. Jahangir Hossain Member, Board of Trustees Internet Society Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrjahangir/ https://internetsociety.org.bd/
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:48 PM Carlton Samuels via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
+1.
I saw the announcement, responded and volunteered to assist. Not even an acknowledgement.
FWIW, both Evan and I served time on the original WG. For full disclosure, the NCSG membership served on the WG as well.
Carlton
============================== *Carlton A Samuels*
*Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 10:30, Evan Leibovitch via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 AM Sarah T. Kiden via CPWG < cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive financial and non-financial support.
Actually, it didn't enable anyone, there were zero successful applicants under the original program. Much work was spent on the program with no effective benefit (except for painful lessons learned by the team).
The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the
next round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP).
How benevolent of them, considering that Applicant Support was started as an ALAC/GAC initiative, initially with explicit LACK of GNSO support and in some corners active hostility.
When did the GNSO acquire the ability to impose its "guidance" on the Advisory Committees? I must have missed that direction in the Bylaws.
- Evan
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Hi Mouloud, I am a 'newcomer' to this group, though I have attend a few meetings. I would be glad to have the documents you are referring to in order to have a clearer understanding of the process and progression of the project. Thank you. Kind regards ... Lavish Mawuena Mensah Member, ISOC Global | ISOC Ghana Fellow, GhanaSIG 2020 | VSIG 2021 | ICANN75 +23324218919 | lavishmensah.ig@gmail.com Glad to connect with you; LinkedIn Profile | WhatsApp  Internet Advocacy Channel On Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 14:52 mouloud khelif via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Cheryl, Justine and Jahangir, I would be pleased to share with Jahangir and anyone here some of the resources and discussions we are having within the first Policy Transition Program (PTP) pilot - we just completed module 1. Cheers Mouloud
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 12:12 AM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
Mouloud, as that pilot, has some excellent and extensive resources perhaps you might share a few key points from your learning with Jahangir and others as background briefing...
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 05:11 mouloud khelif via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all, I am a newcomer to this group / mailing list and generally to ICANN work. I recently joined the first Pilot Transition Program (based on Applicant Support Program), and during our call this past week, Edmon Chung was introduced as the only "successful" applicant (DotKids, DotAsia). Mouloud.
Mouloud Khelif, M.Sc., MBA, MAS. Strategy, Governance, Policy Consultant https://www.linkedin.com/in/mouloud-khelif-12016b/ +41 76 679 8864
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 5:09 AM Jahangir Hossain via CPWG < cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Evan and Sarah,
It would be helpful for us if we get the information on the *number of applications of earlier zero successful applicants under the original program*.
Regards / Md. Jahangir Hossain Member, Board of Trustees Internet Society Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrjahangir/ https://internetsociety.org.bd/
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:48 PM Carlton Samuels via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
+1.
I saw the announcement, responded and volunteered to assist. Not even an acknowledgement.
FWIW, both Evan and I served time on the original WG. For full disclosure, the NCSG membership served on the WG as well.
Carlton
============================== *Carlton A Samuels*
*Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 10:30, Evan Leibovitch via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 AM Sarah T. Kiden via CPWG < cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
> I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant > Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and > competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It > enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive > financial and non-financial support. >
Actually, it didn't enable anyone, there were zero successful applicants under the original program. Much work was spent on the program with no effective benefit (except for painful lessons learned by the team).
The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the > next round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP). >
How benevolent of them, considering that Applicant Support was started as an ALAC/GAC initiative, initially with explicit LACK of GNSO support and in some corners active hostility.
When did the GNSO acquire the ability to impose its "guidance" on the Advisory Committees? I must have missed that direction in the Bylaws.
- Evan
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2012 Round SARP Results <https://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/sarp-results-20mar13-en.pdf> Mouloud is mostly correct -- Edmon Chung led DotKids Foundation Ltd's application for the <dot>KIDS string which also applied for Applicant Support (AS) and met all the AS program's 3 criteria. Kind regards, Justine On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 at 02:11, mouloud khelif via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all, I am a newcomer to this group / mailing list and generally to ICANN work. I recently joined the first Pilot Transition Program (based on Applicant Support Program), and during our call this past week, Edmon Chung was introduced as the only "successful" applicant (DotKids, DotAsia). Mouloud.
Mouloud Khelif, M.Sc., MBA, MAS. Strategy, Governance, Policy Consultant https://www.linkedin.com/in/mouloud-khelif-12016b/ +41 76 679 8864
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 5:09 AM Jahangir Hossain via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Evan and Sarah,
It would be helpful for us if we get the information on the *number of applications of earlier zero successful applicants under the original program*.
Regards / Md. Jahangir Hossain Member, Board of Trustees Internet Society Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrjahangir/ https://internetsociety.org.bd/
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:48 PM Carlton Samuels via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
+1.
I saw the announcement, responded and volunteered to assist. Not even an acknowledgement.
FWIW, both Evan and I served time on the original WG. For full disclosure, the NCSG membership served on the WG as well.
Carlton
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On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 10:30, Evan Leibovitch via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 AM Sarah T. Kiden via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive financial and non-financial support.
Actually, it didn't enable anyone, there were zero successful applicants under the original program. Much work was spent on the program with no effective benefit (except for painful lessons learned by the team).
The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the next
round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP).
How benevolent of them, considering that Applicant Support was started as an ALAC/GAC initiative, initially with explicit LACK of GNSO support and in some corners active hostility.
When did the GNSO acquire the ability to impose its "guidance" on the Advisory Committees? I must have missed that direction in the Bylaws.
- Evan
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Thanks, Justine and all for sharing this information. I look forward to working with you on this " Applicant Support GGP" initiative though we have had few successful references. Regards, Jahangir Hossain On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 5:33 PM Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com> wrote:
2012 Round SARP Results <https://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/sarp-results-20mar13-en.pdf>
Mouloud is mostly correct -- Edmon Chung led DotKids Foundation Ltd's application for the <dot>KIDS string which also applied for Applicant Support (AS) and met all the AS program's 3 criteria.
Kind regards, Justine
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 at 02:11, mouloud khelif via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all, I am a newcomer to this group / mailing list and generally to ICANN work. I recently joined the first Pilot Transition Program (based on Applicant Support Program), and during our call this past week, Edmon Chung was introduced as the only "successful" applicant (DotKids, DotAsia). Mouloud.
Mouloud Khelif, M.Sc., MBA, MAS. Strategy, Governance, Policy Consultant https://www.linkedin.com/in/mouloud-khelif-12016b/ +41 76 679 8864
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 5:09 AM Jahangir Hossain via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Evan and Sarah,
It would be helpful for us if we get the information on the *number of applications of earlier zero successful applicants under the original program*.
Regards / Md. Jahangir Hossain Member, Board of Trustees Internet Society Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrjahangir/ https://internetsociety.org.bd/
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:48 PM Carlton Samuels via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
+1.
I saw the announcement, responded and volunteered to assist. Not even an acknowledgement.
FWIW, both Evan and I served time on the original WG. For full disclosure, the NCSG membership served on the WG as well.
Carlton
============================== *Carlton A Samuels*
*Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 10:30, Evan Leibovitch via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 AM Sarah T. Kiden via CPWG < cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive financial and non-financial support.
Actually, it didn't enable anyone, there were zero successful applicants under the original program. Much work was spent on the program with no effective benefit (except for painful lessons learned by the team).
The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the
next round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP).
How benevolent of them, considering that Applicant Support was started as an ALAC/GAC initiative, initially with explicit LACK of GNSO support and in some corners active hostility.
When did the GNSO acquire the ability to impose its "guidance" on the Advisory Committees? I must have missed that direction in the Bylaws.
- Evan
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HI Jahangir (and I believe Mouloud, Lavish and Jacob), One of the members of the GGP requested that we have an update from Staff regarding the previous round. I will share an update and the recording as soon as this meeting is organised. Thank you for raising this issue. Regards, Sarah On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 4:09 AM Jahangir Hossain <jrjahangir@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Evan and Sarah,
It would be helpful for us if we get the information on the *number of applications of earlier zero successful applicants under the original program*.
Regards / Md. Jahangir Hossain Member, Board of Trustees Internet Society Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrjahangir/ https://internetsociety.org.bd/
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:48 PM Carlton Samuels via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
+1.
I saw the announcement, responded and volunteered to assist. Not even an acknowledgement.
FWIW, both Evan and I served time on the original WG. For full disclosure, the NCSG membership served on the WG as well.
Carlton
============================== *Carlton A Samuels*
*Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 10:30, Evan Leibovitch via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 AM Sarah T. Kiden via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:
I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive financial and non-financial support.
Actually, it didn't enable anyone, there were zero successful applicants under the original program. Much work was spent on the program with no effective benefit (except for painful lessons learned by the team).
The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the next
round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP).
How benevolent of them, considering that Applicant Support was started as an ALAC/GAC initiative, initially with explicit LACK of GNSO support and in some corners active hostility.
When did the GNSO acquire the ability to impose its "guidance" on the Advisory Committees? I must have missed that direction in the Bylaws.
- Evan
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Hi Sarah, One small question: Do I understand correctly that the possible cap is on how many applications for support (that is, how many gTLDs) a single individual/organization can make? Or could an applicant for support ask for it for as many gTLDs as he wants, but there would be a limit on how many gTLD applications he would get support for? Or perhaps something else? Thanks Bill Jouris Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 7:07 AM, Sarah T. Kiden via CPWG<cpwg@icann.org> wrote: Dear all, I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive financial and non-financial support. The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the next round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP). Please take a look at the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Final Report (starting on page 71 on the Applicant Support topic). The working group started working in November and we have had 2 meetings so far. We have 6 tasks, and as homework have been asked to review tasks 3, 4 and 5. As a recap, here are the tasks: - Task 1 - Review the 2011 Final Report of the Joint Applicant Support Working Group and the 2012 implementation of the Applicant Support program in detail, to serve as resources for other Applicant Support related questions/tasks. - Task 2 - Working with ICANN org staff as appropriate, identify experts with expertise to aid in tasks 3, 4, and 5. - Task 3 – Analyze the set of suggested metrics in Implementation Guidance 17.9 and propose which ones should be prioritized. The set of prioritized metrics is NOT limited to what is identified in 17.9. - Task 4 – Identify any other appropriate metrics and measures of success to help in identifying the necessary program elements and measuring program success after the fact. In identifying the suggested set of metrics, propose how data can be collected, how metrics can be measured, who can collect the data, as well as what represents success. - Task 5 – Consider, and to the extent feasible, suggest how the “outreach, education, business case development, and application evaluation” elements of the Applicant Support Program may be impacted by the identified metrics and measures of success. For example, based on the success metrics for Awareness and Education, this may impact the approach for performing outreach and education. To the extent feasible, suggest an approach to outreach, education, business case development, and application evaluation assistance. - Task 6 - Recommend a methodology for allocating financial support where there is inadequate funding for all qualified applicants. We discussed Tasks 1, 2 & 3 today and I captured some initial feedback on Task 3 (analyzing and prioritising metrics identified in 17.9 - noted in this document), and what we can take back to the GGP: - Set clear objectives of what we want to see achieved from the applicant support program (e.g. what are potential applicants?). - Portfolio applications (multiple applications for gTLDs) - Is it possible to put a cap on the number of applicants? (Note: Limiting the number is complex and there will be objections from people who want to submit multiple applications) - ICANN should make it clear that there are policy issues behind the metrics We shall post this on the wiki to help with discussions next week, but happy to get the discussion started. Best wishes, Sarah _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Hi all, First and foremost, I would like to apologise for the delay in responding to this thread. I've been unwell for the past week and have been away from work/email. I am doing much better now. Hi Bill, During the last CPWG call, we discussed portfolio applications. I believe Christopher mentioned that in the past he had suggested to the Sub Pro that there should be a cap on the number of gTLDs (especially for portfolio applications). He mentioned that the idea was not supported by the big players. Alan also highlighted that limiting the number of applications from a single applicant is not easy to achieve. We did not resolve the issue but it is a question I can ask at the next GGP call. I hope this answers your question. Regards, Sarah On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 4:32 PM Bill Jouris <b_jouris@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Sarah,
One small question: Do I understand correctly that the possible cap is on how many applications for support (that is, how many gTLDs) a single individual/organization can make?
Or could an applicant for support ask for it for as many gTLDs as he wants, but there would be a limit on how many gTLD applications he would get support for? Or perhaps something else?
Thanks
Bill Jouris
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On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 7:07 AM, Sarah T. Kiden via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote: Dear all,
I hope you are doing well. As you may be aware, the Applicant Support Program was developed to ensure worldwide accessibility and competition in the 2012 new generic top-level domain (gTLD) Program. It enabled new gTLD applicants meeting certain qualifying criteria to receive financial and non-financial support.
The GNSO Council determined that the provision of guidance for the next round is best accomplished via the GNSO Guidance Process (GGP). Please take a look at the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Final Report <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/153520393/SubPro%20-%20Fina...> (starting on page 71 on the Applicant Support topic). The working group started working in November and we have had 2 meetings so far. We have 6 tasks, and as homework have been asked to review tasks 3, 4 and 5. As a recap, here are the tasks:
1. Task 1 - Review the 2011 Final Report of the Joint Applicant Support Working Group and the 2012 implementation of the Applicant Support program in detail, to serve as resources for other Applicant Support related questions/tasks. 2. Task 2 - Working with ICANN org staff as appropriate, identify experts with expertise to aid in tasks 3, 4, and 5. 3. Task 3 – Analyze the set of suggested metrics in Implementation Guidance 17.9 and propose which ones should be prioritized. The set of prioritized metrics is NOT limited to what is identified in 17.9. 4. Task 4 – Identify any other appropriate metrics and measures of success to help in identifying the necessary program elements and measuring program success after the fact. In identifying the suggested set of metrics, propose how data can be collected, how metrics can be measured, who can collect the data, as well as what represents success. 5. Task 5 – Consider, and to the extent feasible, suggest how the “outreach, education, business case development, and application evaluation” elements of the Applicant Support Program may be impacted by the identified metrics and measures of success. For example, based on the success metrics for Awareness and Education, this may impact the approach for performing outreach and education. To the extent feasible, suggest an approach to outreach, education, business case development, and application evaluation assistance. 6. Task 6 - Recommend a methodology for allocating financial support where there is inadequate funding for all qualified applicants.
We discussed Tasks 1, 2 & 3 today and I captured some initial feedback on Task 3 (analyzing and prioritising metrics identified in 17.9 - noted in this document <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2022/draft/draft-subpro-gg...>), and what we can take back to the GGP:
- Set clear objectives of what we want to see achieved from the applicant support program (e.g. what are potential applicants?). - Portfolio applications (multiple applications for gTLDs) - Is it possible to put a cap on the number of applicants? (Note: Limiting the number is complex and there will be objections from people who want to submit multiple applications) - ICANN should make it clear that there are policy issues behind the metrics
We shall post this on the wiki <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/GNSO+Guidance+Process+%28GGP%29+...> to help with discussions next week, but happy to get the discussion started.
Best wishes,
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Bill Jouris -
Carlton Samuels -
Cheryl Langdon-Orr -
Evan Leibovitch -
Jahangir Hossain -
Justine Chew -
Lavish Mawuena Mensah -
mouloud khelif -
Sarah T. Kiden -
Jacob Odame-Baiden