[GNSO-TPR] RrSG survey re: domain locks
Hi, Attached is the Registrar survey connected to the inter-registrar 60 days lock questions. Regards, Steinar Grøtterød On 03/12/2021, 20:54, "GNSO-TPR on behalf of Owen Smigelski via GNSO-TPR" <gnso-tpr-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-tpr@icann.org> wrote: Hi all, Attached is the document I shared during Tuesday’s meeting regarding RrSG member feedback regarding domain name locks at creation and transfer. As requested, I added a breakdown by registrar type and size. I was not able to find any correlation between either registrar size or type and the preferred lock period. Please let me know if you have any questions. Regards, Owen
Daer Dr. Steinar Grøtterød, Hope you will have time to discuss the tabulated data in the next CPWG Meeting. Quick Note: It has been nicely noted that 30 day + 60 day = 61.9% which is good news. I have been reading the Regostrar Domains Under Management [DUM] tabulated data as: Group A: 0-5,000 : Zero to 30 Days - Attention Group B 5,001 - 50,000 7 days 60 days 5,001 - 50,000 24 hours 24 hours Group C: 50,001 - 100,000 60 days 60 days Group D: Has the maximum 7 Subgroups 100,001 - 999,999 30 days 30 days 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 60 days 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 30 days 100,001 - 999,999 No lock No lock - Attention 100,001 - 999,999 No lock 24 hours 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 30 days 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 60 days Group E: 60 Days is not seen here !!! 1-5 million No lock No lock - Attention 1-5 million 30 days 7 days 1-5 million 15 days 15 days 1-5 million 30 days 30 days Group F: 5 million + 60 days 30 days 5 million + 60 days 60 days 5 million + 60 days 30 days 5 million + No lock No lock - Attention 5 million + 30 days 30 days Into which group do the following top Domain Registrars given below belong to ? Domain.com Namecheap Bluehost HostGator Google Domains Hover GoDaddy Name.com Hostinger DreamHost HostPapa NameSilo Dynadot How many hazards did each group manage ? It has been nicely noted that 30 day + 60 day = 61.9% which is good news. In any case, I stand by the "worst - case design of 60 days" that is fully backed by the history. Hope such an anaylsis can happen some time as we move on with 60 days. Sincerely, Gopal T V 0 9840121302 https://vidwan.inflibnet.ac.in/profile/57545 https://www.facebook.com/gopal.tadepalli ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr. T V Gopal Professor Department of Computer Science and Engineering College of Engineering Anna University Chennai - 600 025, INDIA Ph : (Off) 22351723 Extn. 3340 (Res) 24454753 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On 2021-12-04 13:11, Steinar Grøtterød via CPWG wrote:
Hi,
Attached is the Registrar survey connected to the inter-registrar 60 days lock questions.
Regards, Steinar Grøtterød
On 03/12/2021, 20:54, "GNSO-TPR on behalf of Owen Smigelski via GNSO-TPR" <gnso-tpr-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-tpr@icann.org> wrote:
Hi all,
Attached is the document I shared during Tuesday’s meeting regarding RrSG member feedback regarding domain name locks at creation and transfer. As requested, I added a breakdown by registrar type and size. I was not able to find any correlation between either registrar size or type and the preferred lock period.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Regards,
Owen
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Daer Dr. Steinar Grøtterød, Hope you will have time to discuss the tabulated data in the next CPWG Meeting. Quick Note: It has been nicely noted that 30 day + 60 day = 61.9% which is good news. I have been reading the Regostrar Domains Under Management [DUM] tabulated data as: Group A: 0-5,000 : Zero to 30 Days - Attention Group B 5,001 - 50,000 7 days 60 days 5,001 - 50,000 24 hours 24 hours Group C: 50,001 - 100,000 60 days 60 days Group D: Has the maximum 7 Subgroups 100,001 - 999,999 30 days 30 days 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 60 days 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 30 days 100,001 - 999,999 No lock No lock - Attention 100,001 - 999,999 No lock 24 hours 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 30 days 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 60 days Group E: 60 Days is not seen here !!! 1-5 million No lock No lock - Attention 1-5 million 30 days 7 days 1-5 million 15 days 15 days 1-5 million 30 days 30 days Group F: 5 million + 60 days 30 days 5 million + 60 days 60 days 5 million + 60 days 30 days 5 million + No lock No lock - Attention 5 million + 30 days 30 days Into which group do the following top Domain Registrars given below belong to ? Domain.com Namecheap Bluehost HostGator Google Domains Hover GoDaddy Name.com Hostinger DreamHost HostPapa NameSilo Dynadot How many hazards did each group manage ? It has been nicely noted that 30 day + 60 day = 61.9% which is good news. In any case, I stand by the "worst - case design of 60 days" that is fully backed by the history. Hope such an anaylsis can happen some time as we move on with 60 days. Sincerely, Gopal T V 0 9840121302 https://vidwan.inflibnet.ac.in/profile/57545 https://www.facebook.com/gopal.tadepalli ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr. T V Gopal Professor Department of Computer Science and Engineering College of Engineering Anna University Chennai - 600 025, INDIA Ph : (Off) 22351723 Extn. 3340 (Res) 24454753 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On 2021-12-04 13:11, Steinar Grøtterød via CPWG wrote:
Hi,
Attached is the Registrar survey connected to the inter-registrar 60 days lock questions.
Regards, Steinar Grøtterød
On 03/12/2021, 20:54, "GNSO-TPR on behalf of Owen Smigelski via GNSO-TPR" <gnso-tpr-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-tpr@icann.org> wrote:
Hi all,
Attached is the document I shared during Tuesday’s meeting regarding RrSG member feedback regarding domain name locks at creation and transfer. As requested, I added a breakdown by registrar type and size. I was not able to find any correlation between either registrar size or type and the preferred lock period.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Regards,
Owen
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Dear Gopal, When present at the TRP PDP WG meeting, the RrSG presentation by Owen Smigelski did not include the data where the registrar's size was selected in the response categories. However, Owen stated that " I was not able to find any correlation between either registrar size or type and the preferred lock period". In regard to your question about registrars number of domain names: I do not have this information, but assume that Owen selected based on the RrSG fee structure. In my opinion, the "surveys" RrSG and CPWG) only indicate a difference in the questions about locks where CPWG were more in favor of removing locks, Registrars more in favor of keeping. But none of the groups cannot be seen to have consensus. Regards, Steinar Grøtterød On 05/12/2021, 14:43, "gopal@annauniv.edu" <gopal@annauniv.edu> wrote: Daer Dr. Steinar Grøtterød, Hope you will have time to discuss the tabulated data in the next CPWG Meeting. Quick Note: It has been nicely noted that 30 day + 60 day = 61.9% which is good news. I have been reading the Regostrar Domains Under Management [DUM] tabulated data as: Group A: 0-5,000 : Zero to 30 Days - Attention Group B 5,001 - 50,000 7 days 60 days 5,001 - 50,000 24 hours 24 hours Group C: 50,001 - 100,000 60 days 60 days Group D: Has the maximum 7 Subgroups 100,001 - 999,999 30 days 30 days 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 60 days 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 30 days 100,001 - 999,999 No lock No lock - Attention 100,001 - 999,999 No lock 24 hours 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 30 days 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 60 days Group E: 60 Days is not seen here !!! 1-5 million No lock No lock - Attention 1-5 million 30 days 7 days 1-5 million 15 days 15 days 1-5 million 30 days 30 days Group F: 5 million + 60 days 30 days 5 million + 60 days 60 days 5 million + 60 days 30 days 5 million + No lock No lock - Attention 5 million + 30 days 30 days Into which group do the following top Domain Registrars given below belong to ? Domain.com Namecheap Bluehost HostGator Google Domains Hover GoDaddy Name.com Hostinger DreamHost HostPapa NameSilo Dynadot How many hazards did each group manage ? It has been nicely noted that 30 day + 60 day = 61.9% which is good news. In any case, I stand by the "worst - case design of 60 days" that is fully backed by the history. Hope such an anaylsis can happen some time as we move on with 60 days. Sincerely, Gopal T V 0 9840121302 https://vidwan.inflibnet.ac.in/profile/57545 https://www.facebook.com/gopal.tadepalli ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr. T V Gopal Professor Department of Computer Science and Engineering College of Engineering Anna University Chennai - 600 025, INDIA Ph : (Off) 22351723 Extn. 3340 (Res) 24454753 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On 2021-12-04 13:11, Steinar Grøtterød via CPWG wrote: > Hi, > > Attached is the Registrar survey connected to the inter-registrar 60 > days lock questions. > > Regards, > Steinar Grøtterød > > On 03/12/2021, 20:54, "GNSO-TPR on behalf of Owen Smigelski via > GNSO-TPR" <gnso-tpr-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-tpr@icann.org> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Attached is the document I shared during Tuesday’s meeting > regarding RrSG member feedback regarding domain name locks at creation > and transfer. As requested, I added a breakdown by registrar type and > size. I was not able to find any correlation between either registrar > size or type and the preferred lock period. > > Please let me know if you have any questions. > > Regards, > > Owen > > > _______________________________________________ > CPWG mailing list > CPWG@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg > > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of > your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list > accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy > (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of > Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman > link above to change your membership status or configuration, > including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling > delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
The RrSG fees are flat, so the size of registrar does not impact it. There are plenty of resources which will give you market data. Here’s one: https://www.domainstate.com/registrar-stats.html Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: CPWG <cpwg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Steinar Grøtterød via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> Date: Monday, 6 December 2021 at 13:32 To: gopal@annauniv.edu <gopal@annauniv.edu>, CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CPWG] [GNSO-TPR] RrSG survey re: domain locks [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please use caution when opening attachments from unrecognised sources. Dear Gopal, When present at the TRP PDP WG meeting, the RrSG presentation by Owen Smigelski did not include the data where the registrar's size was selected in the response categories. However, Owen stated that " I was not able to find any correlation between either registrar size or type and the preferred lock period". In regard to your question about registrars number of domain names: I do not have this information, but assume that Owen selected based on the RrSG fee structure. In my opinion, the "surveys" RrSG and CPWG) only indicate a difference in the questions about locks where CPWG were more in favor of removing locks, Registrars more in favor of keeping. But none of the groups cannot be seen to have consensus. Regards, Steinar Grøtterød On 05/12/2021, 14:43, "gopal@annauniv.edu" <gopal@annauniv.edu> wrote: Daer Dr. Steinar Grøtterød, Hope you will have time to discuss the tabulated data in the next CPWG Meeting. Quick Note: It has been nicely noted that 30 day + 60 day = 61.9% which is good news. I have been reading the Regostrar Domains Under Management [DUM] tabulated data as: Group A: 0-5,000 : Zero to 30 Days - Attention Group B 5,001 - 50,000 7 days 60 days 5,001 - 50,000 24 hours 24 hours Group C: 50,001 - 100,000 60 days 60 days Group D: Has the maximum 7 Subgroups 100,001 - 999,999 30 days 30 days 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 60 days 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 30 days 100,001 - 999,999 No lock No lock - Attention 100,001 - 999,999 No lock 24 hours 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 30 days 100,001 - 999,999 60 days 60 days Group E: 60 Days is not seen here !!! 1-5 million No lock No lock - Attention 1-5 million 30 days 7 days 1-5 million 15 days 15 days 1-5 million 30 days 30 days Group F: 5 million + 60 days 30 days 5 million + 60 days 60 days 5 million + 60 days 30 days 5 million + No lock No lock - Attention 5 million + 30 days 30 days Into which group do the following top Domain Registrars given below belong to ? Domain.com Namecheap Bluehost HostGator Google Domains Hover GoDaddy Name.com Hostinger DreamHost HostPapa NameSilo Dynadot How many hazards did each group manage ? It has been nicely noted that 30 day + 60 day = 61.9% which is good news. In any case, I stand by the "worst - case design of 60 days" that is fully backed by the history. Hope such an anaylsis can happen some time as we move on with 60 days. Sincerely, Gopal T V 0 9840121302 https://vidwan.inflibnet.ac.in/profile/57545 https://www.facebook.com/gopal.tadepalli ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr. T V Gopal Professor Department of Computer Science and Engineering College of Engineering Anna University Chennai - 600 025, INDIA Ph : (Off) 22351723 Extn. 3340 (Res) 24454753 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On 2021-12-04 13:11, Steinar Grøtterød via CPWG wrote: > Hi, > > Attached is the Registrar survey connected to the inter-registrar 60 > days lock questions. > > Regards, > Steinar Grøtterød > > On 03/12/2021, 20:54, "GNSO-TPR on behalf of Owen Smigelski via > GNSO-TPR" <gnso-tpr-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-tpr@icann.org> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Attached is the document I shared during Tuesday’s meeting > regarding RrSG member feedback regarding domain name locks at creation > and transfer. As requested, I added a breakdown by registrar type and > size. I was not able to find any correlation between either registrar > size or type and the preferred lock period. > > Please let me know if you have any questions. > > Regards, > > Owen > > > _______________________________________________ > CPWG mailing list > CPWG@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg > > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of > your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list > accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy > (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of > Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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