Next steps in the evolving MS model
Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next: 1. Map issues to owners 2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue 3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support. I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul. Marita
Hi Marita, Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in? Thanks, Justine ----- On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next:
1. Map issues to owners
2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue
3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support.
I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view
This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul.
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Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either. I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem. So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly.Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful. Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present. Marita On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote:
Hi Marita,
Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
Thanks,
Justine -----
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net <mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote:
Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next:
1. Map issues to owners
2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue
3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support.
I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view
This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul.
Marita
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We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which topics we want to prioritize under each category. Greg On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either.
I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem.
So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful.
Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present.
Marita On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote:
Hi Marita,
Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
Thanks,
Justine -----
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next:
1. Map issues to owners
2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue
3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support.
I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view
This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul.
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That makes sense to me Greg On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org> wrote:
We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which topics we want to prioritize under each category.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either.
I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem.
So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful.
Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present.
Marita On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote:
Hi Marita,
Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
Thanks,
Justine -----
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next:
1. Map issues to owners
2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue
3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support.
I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view
This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul.
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I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off the table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats, or the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups. Anyone who followed the GNSO review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table there, too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns. Greg On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
That makes sense to me Greg
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org> wrote:
We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which topics we want to prioritize under each category.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either.
I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem.
So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful.
Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present.
Marita On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote:
Hi Marita,
Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
Thanks,
Justine -----
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next:
1. Map issues to owners
2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue
3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support.
I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view
This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul.
Marita _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg
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Isn't structural issues part of the MS model? -ed On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 2:36 PM Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org> wrote:
I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off the table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats, or the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups. Anyone who followed the GNSO review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table there, too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
That makes sense to me Greg
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org> wrote:
We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which topics we want to prioritize under each category.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either.
I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem.
So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful.
Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present.
Marita On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote:
Hi Marita,
Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
Thanks,
Justine -----
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next:
1. Map issues to owners
2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue
3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support.
I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view
This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul.
Marita _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg
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It's a bit difficult to create a model without some form of structure. Or is it their structures that are important? What about what is important to At-Large? So where does the "multi-stakeholder" bit fit in? On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 8:14 AM Eduardo Diaz, <eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com> wrote:
Isn't structural issues part of the MS model?
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On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 2:36 PM Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org> wrote:
I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off the table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats, or the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups. Anyone who followed the GNSO review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table there, too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
That makes sense to me Greg
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org> wrote:
We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which topics we want to prioritize under each category.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either.
I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem.
So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful.
Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present.
Marita On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote:
Hi Marita,
Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
Thanks,
Justine -----
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next:
1. Map issues to owners
2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue
3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support.
I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view
This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul.
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Good questions. -ed On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 4:24 PM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
It's a bit difficult to create a model without some form of structure. Or is it their structures that are important? What about what is important to At-Large? So where does the "multi-stakeholder" bit fit in?
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 8:14 AM Eduardo Diaz, <eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com> wrote:
Isn't structural issues part of the MS model?
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On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 2:36 PM Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org> wrote:
I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off the table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats, or the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups. Anyone who followed the GNSO review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table there, too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
That makes sense to me Greg
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org> wrote:
We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which topics we want to prioritize under each category.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either.
I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem.
So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful.
Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present.
Marita On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote:
Hi Marita,
Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
Thanks,
Justine -----
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
> Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's > webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was > expecting from us next: > > 1. Map issues to owners > > 2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or > approach to resolving the issue > > 3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions > > So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification > part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, > Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. > who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for > resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to > be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we > want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and > shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of > the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might > hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say > that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of > support. > > I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which > issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our > fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate > our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a > united point of view > > This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it > is certain to be a long haul. > > Marita > _______________________________________________ > CPWG mailing list > CPWG@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg > > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of > your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list > accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( > https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of > Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the > Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, > including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling > delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
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Well, this was actually predicted and so our statement says the following about structural changes: "We realize that entering into a discussion that would bring about these kinds of changes may be beyond the scope of the current process but this process should recommend that such discussions need to take place and suggest a way forward. At some point, the structure of ICANN itself and how that structure now stands in the way of a really effective and efficient multistakeholder model must be addressed." Marita On 6/17/2019 2:35 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:
I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off the table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats, or the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups. Anyone who followed the GNSO review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table there, too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com <mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com>> wrote:
That makes sense to me Greg
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org <mailto:greg@isoc-ny.org>> wrote:
We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which topics we want to prioritize under each category.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net <mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote:
Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either.
I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem.
So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly.Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful.
Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present.
Marita
On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote:
Hi Marita,
Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
Thanks,
Justine -----
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net <mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote:
Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next:
1. Map issues to owners
2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue
3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support.
I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view
This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul.
Marita
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So, do we attend the ICANN65 HIT: Future of the Multistakeholder Model of Governance session on 25th June and take our cues from there? https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058185 Justine ----- On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 10:05, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Well, this was actually predicted and so our statement says the following about structural changes:
"We realize that entering into a discussion that would bring about these kinds of changes may be beyond the scope of the current process but this process should recommend that such discussions need to take place and suggest a way forward. At some point, the structure of ICANN itself and how that structure now stands in the way of a really effective and efficient multistakeholder model must be addressed."
Marita On 6/17/2019 2:35 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:
I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off the table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats, or the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups. Anyone who followed the GNSO review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table there, too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
That makes sense to me Greg
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org> wrote:
We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which topics we want to prioritize under each category.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either.
I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem.
So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful.
Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present.
Marita On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote:
Hi Marita,
Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
Thanks,
Justine -----
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next:
1. Map issues to owners
2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue
3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support.
I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view
This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul.
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I agree on addressing all issues, while prioritizing what we think matters most to at-large Hadia From: CPWG [mailto:cpwg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Justine Chew Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 7:56 AM To: Marita Moll Cc: Greg Shatan; CPWG; Cheryl Langdon-Orr Subject: Re: [CPWG] [GTLD-WG] [registration-issues-wg] Next steps in the evolving MS model So, do we attend the ICANN65 HIT: Future of the Multistakeholder Model of Governance session on 25th June and take our cues from there? https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058185 Justine ----- On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 10:05, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Well, this was actually predicted and so our statement says the following about structural changes: "We realize that entering into a discussion that would bring about these kinds of changes may be beyond the scope of the current process but this process should recommend that such discussions need to take place and suggest a way forward. At some point, the structure of ICANN itself and how that structure now stands in the way of a really effective and efficient multistakeholder model must be addressed." Marita On 6/17/2019 2:35 PM, Greg Shatan wrote: I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off the table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats, or the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups. Anyone who followed the GNSO review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table there, too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns. Greg On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com<mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com>> wrote: That makes sense to me Greg On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org<mailto:greg@isoc-ny.org>> wrote: We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which topics we want to prioritize under each category. Greg On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either. I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem. So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful. Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present. Marita On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote: Hi Marita, Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in? Thanks, Justine ----- On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next: 1. Map issues to owners 2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue 3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support. I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul. Marita _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG@icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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For some time I’ve been wondering the impact of our efforts. I am thinking e need to re-assess look at effectiveness just don’t do repeat because we think it is working.We need things to work. My little piece of mind.
On 18 Jun 2019, at 12:42, Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg> wrote:
I agree on addressing all issues, while prioritizing what we think matters most to at-large
Hadia
From: CPWG [mailto:cpwg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:cpwg-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Justine Chew Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 7:56 AM To: Marita Moll Cc: Greg Shatan; CPWG; Cheryl Langdon-Orr Subject: Re: [CPWG] [GTLD-WG] [registration-issues-wg] Next steps in the evolving MS model
So, do we attend the ICANN65 HIT: Future of the Multistakeholder Model of Governance session on 25th June and take our cues from there?
https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058185 <https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058185>
Justine -----
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 10:05, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net <mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Well, this was actually predicted and so our statement says the following about structural changes:
"We realize that entering into a discussion that would bring about these kinds of changes may be beyond the scope of the current process but this process should recommend that such discussions need to take place and suggest a way forward. At some point, the structure of ICANN itself and how that structure now stands in the way of a really effective and efficient multistakeholder model must be addressed."
Marita
On 6/17/2019 2:35 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:
I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off the table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats, or the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups. Anyone who followed the GNSO review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table there, too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com <mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com>> wrote: That makes sense to me Greg
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org <mailto:greg@isoc-ny.org>> wrote: We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which topics we want to prioritize under each category.
Greg
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net <mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either.
I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem.
So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful.
Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present.
Marita
On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote: Hi Marita,
Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
Thanks,
Justine -----
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net <mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next:
1. Map issues to owners
2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue
3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support.
I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view
This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul.
Marita
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(Apologies for the cross-posting, but this issue is far more than just the CPWG) Hi Kris, On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 04:49, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> wrote:
For some time I’ve been wondering the impact of our efforts. I am thinking e need to re-assess look at effectiveness just don’t do repeat because we think it is working.We need things to work. My little piece of mind.
You've nailed the #1 issue facing At-Large, Kris. Nothing else really matters right now. Through a combination of design, inertia, conflicts of interest and the fear of being unloved. ALAC and the At-Large mechanism behind it have become a black hole for resources -- volunteers' time and ICANN's money -- with damn little to show for it over more than a dozen years of existence. These ills have been actively glossed-over and diverted-from, using BS metrics and outreach initiatives that have been little more than costly indulgences in naval-gazing. What is the point of going crazy to ensure representation for [add your favourite under-represented group here] if NONE OF US are capable of affecting useful change? The only really meaningful thing At-Large has done for end-users at ICANN is eliminate domain tasting, that was a decade ago and mainly due to one person's initiative. Everything since has been tweaking the edges of policy without real substantive effect. Other initiatives have been "approved", only to be constrained to the point of uselessness (such as gTLD Applicant support, and even THAT was for the benefit of would-be registries and registrants not end users!). We play no useful role in curtailing ICANN's mission creep, its relentless expansion of the namespace, the curtailing of abuse or the balance between privacy and registrant accountability. If we have anything useful to say it's likely being echoed somewhere else, there is no effort to create an end-user perspective (let alone agenda) unique to ALAC. ICANN and other constituencies pay lip service to At-Large because they have to, and ICANN needs it as a matter of political cosmetics. *For now*. Some of our well-meaning members think that if we say the right conciliatory things we may gainpartners and collaborators. That too is BS because the sad reality is that no other constituency has anything to gain from partnering with us. The cost of coming to agreement with ALAC outweighs ANY political benefit. Thus we run our course, begging for others to love us so we can be heard, and in the process self-censor to the point of saying nothing worth hearing. Yeah, I may be sounding like a cranky old broken record. But someone needs to keep saying this. ALAC has already sleepwalked its way into irrelevance and its next step is oblivion. Other constituencies appear actively interested in gutting At-Large or maybe even eliminating it, and the counter-argument we offer gets weaker by the day. I really don't want this to happen because ICANN desperately needs the voice ALAC was supposed to offer. But that can't happen in its current state of self-important denial. I only wish more people cared about effectiveness more than they cared about making buddies in the domain industry or pretending we're the freaklng UN Security Council three times a year. What exists is unsustainable. Tick tock. - Evan
I have mixed feelings about that. On one hand, I agree that to do structural changes just for the sake of it, or because of some ideological premises, is not the most useful debate. However, once certain strategical objectives are set, it is very likely that some structural changes may facilitate the achievement of these objectives, so also the a-priori refusal to make structural changes does not make sense either. My 2c R On 17.06.2019, at 20:35, Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org<mailto:greg@isoc-ny.org>> wrote: I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off the table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats, or the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups. Anyone who followed the GNSO review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table there, too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns. Greg On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com<mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com>> wrote: That makes sense to me Greg On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org<mailto:greg@isoc-ny.org>> wrote: We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which topics we want to prioritize under each category. Greg On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either. I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem. So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful. Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present. Marita On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote: Hi Marita, Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in? Thanks, Justine ----- On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next: 1. Map issues to owners 2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue 3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support. I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul. 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Le 14 juin 2019 à 00:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> a écrit :
Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next:
1. Map issues to owners
2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue
3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support.
I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view
This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul.
Marita
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Cheryl Langdon-Orr -
Eduardo Diaz -
Evan Leibovitch -
Greg Shatan -
Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi -
Justine Chew -
Kris Seeburn -
Marita Moll -
Maureen Hilyard -
Roberto Gaetano -
Sebastien Bachollet