I have mixed feelings about that. On one hand, I agree that to do structural changes just for the sake of it, or because of some ideological premises, is not the most useful debate. However, once certain strategical objectives are set, it is very likely that some structural changes may facilitate the achievement of these objectives, so also the a-priori refusal to make structural changes does not make sense either. My 2c R On 17.06.2019, at 20:35, Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org<mailto:greg@isoc-ny.org>> wrote: I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off the table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats, or the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups. Anyone who followed the GNSO review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table there, too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns. Greg On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com<mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com>> wrote: That makes sense to me Greg On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg@isoc-ny.org<mailto:greg@isoc-ny.org>> wrote: We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which topics we want to prioritize under each category. Greg On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either. I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at that table, the discussion will go on without them. Since trust is an issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem. So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that discussion will flow. Some advance discussion on our part and vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other groups plan to handle this would also be useful. Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present. Marita On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote: Hi Marita, Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in? Thanks, Justine ----- On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was expecting from us next: 1. Map issues to owners 2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach to resolving the issue 3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh, Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g. who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say that he was aware of the problem and that participants would get lots of support. I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a united point of view This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is certain to be a long haul. 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