Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday, 29 August 2016 at 21:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-ctn-29aug16-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-ctn-29aug16-en.mp3> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#aug The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: ccNSO: Annebeth Lange, .no Timo Vohmar, .ee GNSO Heather Forrest, IPC (co-Chair) Alexander Schubert, RySG Colin O’Brien, IPC Robin Gross, NCSG Griffin Barnett, IPC Maxim Alzoba, NTAG (GNSO) Susan Payne, NTAG (GNSO) ALAC: Cheryl Langdon-Orr GAC: Milagros Castanon Seoane Nigel Cassimire Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos Additional Members: Jaap Akkerhuis ( ISO 3166 Expert) Apologies: Carlos Raul Gutierrez, NPOC (co-Chair) Ron Sherwood, .vi Sanna Sahlman, .fi Paul Szyndler (co-Chair), .au Laura Watkins, .uk (ccNSO) ICANN staff: Bart Boswinkel Marika Konings Emily Barabas Joke Braeken Michelle DeSmyter ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ctn-crosscom/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/_w_sAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle **************** Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 29 August 2016: Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the CWG-UCTN call on Monday, 29 August 2016 at 21:00 UTC. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Good Evening Michelle DeSmyter:Hello, welcome Maxim! mcastanon:hello everyone Joke Braeken:Welcome everyone. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I think we will see more people in 10 minutes Emily Barabas:Hello All! Bart Boswinkel:Hi All Alexander Schubert:Hello all.... Nigel Cassimire:Hello, All. Alexander Schubert:I see at least 3 people who are leaving today in seconds to greet Tuesday....... Heather Forrest:We'll get started very shortly, thank you everyone for joining Susan Payne:hello Nigel Cassimire:Hearing well. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Hi all Alexander Schubert:For most it is 29th--- Alexander Schubert:Me 30th as well! Griffin Barnett:Heather -- did we need to start the recording for the meeting? Michelle DeSmyter:yes Michelle DeSmyter:yes Michelle DeSmyter:can you hear me? Susan Payne:yes Griffin Barnett:I hear you Emily Barabas:yes Annebeth Lange:Could you call me, please, I just got home from travel. +4795911559 Annebeth Lange:I am here,but have no connection. Calling from the train station and try to get in touch. Joke Braeken:hi Annebeth, we will dial out to you Annebeth Lange:Thanks Annebeth Lange:Susan came with comments as well Annebeth Lange:In addition there has been an extensive discussion on the mailing list Annebeth Lange:Hi Heather, I am on phone now Heather Forrest:Joke or Michelle, could you enable participants to scroll through the document and make the document a bit bigger so easier to see? Heather Forrest:Just one step larger on the document if possible, pleas Heather Forrest:please Joke Braeken:hi Heather, thanks. this was done. Robin Gross:ALAC membes were among the most active during the PDP for new gtlds. Alan and Evan in particular were heavily participating in the PDP which set the rules. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):workload and focused motivation, Heather... Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes a few of our overcommited volunteers can become highly involved, nor are there designed 'barriers to engagement' but we're still going to need to work very hard to ensure that the voice and interests of all the "Significantly Interested Parties" on this topic... Heather Forrest:Thank you Joke for sorting out the document on screen Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):are heard and considered Heather Forrest:I'll turn to Bart next and then make some comments about GNSO PDP - perhaps some notes we can take back to the GNSO Robin Gross:For example, the concept of the "Independent Objector" was an ALAC proposal for new gtlds that was included in the policy. Robin Gross:And the "morality and public order" recommendations came mainly from GAC and ALAC, and again, were included in the final GNSO policy. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thx Bart Annebeth Lange:I totally agree on that, Heather. Heather Forrest:We have a separate work stream within the Subsequent Procedures PDP - we could carve out this issue within the work stream to avoid the problem you raise, Annebeth Susan Payne:@ Heather - yes, subsequent procedures is covering an issue on at least two calls before considering it dealt with to help allow for the fact that everyone cannot be on every call Susan Payne:that was a comment on an earlier point rather than the one you just typed :) Annebeth Lange:Work streams are good ideas, and try to find who is interested in which work streatm Annebeth Lange:That sounds like a good idea, Heaterh Susan Payne:I think a substream would be a very good idea. And WS2 has only just started (1 kick off meeting) so very timely Annebeth Lange:Agreed, Bart. The rest of the geographical names complicated the discussions. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes so true Bart, and whatever happens it has to be timely Alexander Schubert:Who asked for a "harmonized framework" in the first pace? Bart Boswinkel:Study Group Bart Boswinkel:ccNSO Alexander Schubert:WHy? Bart Boswinkel:because of overlap[ Alexander Schubert:Not feasable.... Annebeth Lange:Alexander, what is the option? Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):And bring Open Minded re possible solutions Bart..Yes Annebeth Lange:There have been a lot of interesting input from members on the mailing list, but it would be usefult to put it in the draft as well Alexander Schubert:Well: The next round starts in 2020 - sometime before we need to know how to apply for 3166 III and country names as gTLD. Annebeth Lange:Alexander: :-) Alexander Schubert:If we also want "solutions" for the 2nd level - wholly separate issue..... Annebeth Lange:I agree, Heather Annebeth Lange:We are dealing with first level here, please no more confusion here. Annebeth Lange:Agreed, Bart. Annebeth Lange:And also suggesting the way forward Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes Joke Braeken:I will soon send out the latest version to the mailing list Annebeth Lange:Thank you, Heather, for chairing. You're the best! Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):bye all Griffin Barnett:Thanks Heather, bye all Nigel Cassimire:Thank you , Heather and all. Bye now. Colin O'Brien:Thanks for chairing Heather. jaap akkerhuis:by all Joke Braeken:thank you! bye! Alexander Schubert:Bye to all! Robin Gross:thanks, bye Timo Võhmar:bye Heather Forrest:Thanks everyone Heather Forrest:Thanks Michelle and Joke!