Draft Agenda CTN meeting Monday 21 September 20.00 UTC
Dear all, Please find included the draft agenda for our next call Monday 21 September 20.00 UTC. 1. Welcome 2. Review of amended Strawman Paper 3. Report on questionnaires 4. Discussion of 3 letter codes status quo 5. Progress Report for Dublin 6. AOB 7. Closure Also included the updated Strawman option paper. Major changes: * New text on role of the ISO 3166 MA ( as proposed by Jaap) * Area's that need to be completed regarding the 2 letter codes. * Suggestion as discussed previously, to turn definition section into a glossary , that will evolve over time Kind regards, Bart
Dear Bart, many thanks for the agenda. There is an email sent by one of the co-chairs of this CCWG to the Regional At Large LACRALO email list with comments about the role of the GAC. I would like to request clarification about what is stated in that email and make comments about it. Best regards Olga 2015-09-19 10:07 GMT-03:00 Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>:
Dear all, Please find included the draft agenda for our next call Monday 21 September 20.00 UTC.
1. Welcome 2. Review of amended Strawman Paper 3. Report on questionnaires 4. Discussion of 3 letter codes status quo 5. Progress Report for Dublin 6. AOB 7. Closure
Also included the updated Strawman option paper. Major changes:
- New text on role of the ISO 3166 MA ( as proposed by Jaap) - Area’s that need to be completed regarding the 2 letter codes. - Suggestion as discussed previously, to turn definition section into a glossary , that will evolve over time
Kind regards, Bart
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Dear Olga, I cannot be on the call because i will be traveling today, so here is the background to the conversations with the ALAC and LACRALO leadership, who kindly have been looking for new volunteers for the CWG-UCTN because only Cheryl has been participant from their side. I gave some background on the working group, particularly that it developed from a previous working group by the ccNSO, that there existed another working group on geographic names in the GAC that the objectives of both the CWG and the GAC group where still based on different assumptions, as GAC had chosen a much wider scope I may have also mentioned the letter of the GNASO and ccNSO Chairs wrote to the Chair of the GAC after the Buenos Aires meeting where little if any progress was made in trying to work together. Best regards Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez _____________________ email: crg@isoc-cr.org Skype: carlos.raulg +506 8837 7173 (cel) +506 4000 2000 (home) +506 2290 3678 (fax) _____________________ Apartado 1571-1000 San Jose, COSTA RICA
On Sep 19, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Olga Cavalli <olgacavalli@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Bart,
many thanks for the agenda.
There is an email sent by one of the co-chairs of this CCWG to the Regional At Large LACRALO email list with comments about the role of the GAC.
I would like to request clarification about what is stated in that email and make comments about it.
Best regards
Olga
2015-09-19 10:07 GMT-03:00 Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>: Dear all, Please find included the draft agenda for our next call Monday 21 September 20.00 UTC. Welcome Review of amended Strawman Paper Report on questionnaires Discussion of 3 letter codes status quo Progress Report for Dublin AOB Closure Also included the updated Strawman option paper. Major changes: New text on role of the ISO 3166 MA ( as proposed by Jaap) Area’s that need to be completed regarding the 2 letter codes. Suggestion as discussed previously, to turn definition section into a glossary , that will evolve over time Kind regards, Bart
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Carlos, About your comments sent to the LAC RALO email list, the regional At large from Latin America and the Caribbean, in relation with the CCWG on Country and Territory names and the role of the GAC. The list is public, this is his comment about the GAC, which is in Spanish and I translate as well: *"................* *Que el GAC ha hecho una contrapropuesta con un perímetro de definiciones mas amplio, y se ha negado consistentemente a participar en este grupo. Tampoco sabemos mucho del grupo del GAC sobre este tema, aunque es liderado por Argentina* *................"* The text in red refers to the GAC and its translation into English reads as follows: *"that the GAC has made another proposal agains it, with a broader definition and that the GAC has neglected consistenly its participation in this group. We do not know also much about the GAC about this issue, in spite of the fact that is leaded by Argentina."* I want to clarify some points about your affirmation and request clarification from your affirmations: *The GAC has never neglected its participation in the CCWG*, I have participated in several calls and F2F meeting, as much as I can, where my participation had always the purpose of updating about the GAC WG activities. *CCWG has always been informed about GAC WG activities.* *GAC WG outcome documents were made public, also they were open for public comments which were presented during the last ICANN Singapore meeting where you were one of the invited panelist to that open session.* *Argentina has the role of charing that working group, which has also the participation of other 30 countries from all over the world.* *Could you please clarify this sentence "**We do not know also much about the GAC about this issue, in spite of the fact that is leaded by Argentina"?* *The GAC has not made another proposal agains this CCWG: *The scope of both WG is different. GAC´s WG does not represent a proposal "against" the CCWG on CTnames. CCWG on Country and Territory Names refers to names that are in lists, as clearly stated in the CCWG Charter: *"The objective of the CWG-UCTN is to review the current status of representations of country and territory names, as they exist under current ICANN policies, guidelines and procedures. In addition, the Group has been asked to provide advice regarding the feasibility of developing a consistent and uniform set of definitions that could be applicable across the respective SO's and AC's for country and territory names as top-level domains. Please note that the scope of the WG is strictly limited to:* *· Representations of names of Countries, Territories and their subdivisions listed on or eligible to be listed on the Alpha-2 code International Standard for country codes and codes for their subdivisions (ISO 3166-1), (Names of Country and Territory). Other geographicalindicators, such as regions, are excluded;* *· The use of Country and Territory names as Top Level Domains. The use of Country and Territory names as second or other level is excluded."* The GAC WG on GEO NAMES was created following the Durban GAC Communique, see below link and relevant section: file:///C:/Users/usuario/Downloads/Final_GAC_Communique_Durban_20130717.pdf 7. Geographic Names and Community Applications a. Geographic Names i. The GAC recommends that ICANN collaborate with the GAC in refining, for future rounds, the Applicant Guidebook with regard to the protection of terms with national, cultural, geographic and religious significance, in accordance with the 2007 GAC Principles on New gTLDs. It is an internal GAC WG which started its work by the Buenos Aires meeting in 2013 and focuses its work in those geographic and community names that are not included in any ISO or United Nation list or other officially recognized lists. LAC RALO Public email list can be found in this link. http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-es/2015-September/02959... In this sense I kindly ask you to send an email to the LAC RALO list explaining that your affirmations do not correspond with what has been happening and clarifying your reference about Argentina. Best regards Olga 2015-09-21 8:21 GMT-03:00 Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez <crg@isoc-cr.org>:
Dear Olga,
I cannot be on the call because i will be traveling today, so here is the background to the conversations with the ALAC and LACRALO leadership, who kindly have been looking for new volunteers for the CWG-UCTN because only Cheryl has been participant from their side.
I gave some background on the working group, particularly that it developed from a previous working group by the ccNSO, that there existed another working group on geographic names in the GAC that the objectives of both the CWG and the GAC group where still based on different assumptions, as GAC had chosen a much wider scope
I may have also mentioned the letter of the GNASO and ccNSO Chairs wrote to the Chair of the GAC after the Buenos Aires meeting where little if any progress was made in trying to work together.
Best regards
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez _____________________
email: crg@isoc-cr.org Skype: carlos.raulg +506 8837 7173 (cel) +506 4000 2000 (home) +506 2290 3678 (fax) _____________________ Apartado 1571-1000 San Jose, COSTA RICA
On Sep 19, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Olga Cavalli <olgacavalli@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Bart,
many thanks for the agenda.
There is an email sent by one of the co-chairs of this CCWG to the Regional At Large LACRALO email list with comments about the role of the GAC.
I would like to request clarification about what is stated in that email and make comments about it.
Best regards
Olga
2015-09-19 10:07 GMT-03:00 Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>:
Dear all, Please find included the draft agenda for our next call Monday 21 September 20.00 UTC.
1. Welcome 2. Review of amended Strawman Paper 3. Report on questionnaires 4. Discussion of 3 letter codes status quo 5. Progress Report for Dublin 6. AOB 7. Closure
Also included the updated Strawman option paper. Major changes:
- New text on role of the ISO 3166 MA ( as proposed by Jaap) - Area’s that need to be completed regarding the 2 letter codes. - Suggestion as discussed previously, to turn definition section into a glossary , that will evolve over time
Kind regards, Bart
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Hi I cannot find the access details for the call can you do a dial out to me please? +54 11 4819 7979 thanks Olga 2015-09-19 10:07 GMT-03:00 Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>:
Dear all, Please find included the draft agenda for our next call Monday 21 September 20.00 UTC.
1. Welcome 2. Review of amended Strawman Paper 3. Report on questionnaires 4. Discussion of 3 letter codes status quo 5. Progress Report for Dublin 6. AOB 7. Closure
Also included the updated Strawman option paper. Major changes:
- New text on role of the ISO 3166 MA ( as proposed by Jaap) - Area’s that need to be completed regarding the 2 letter codes. - Suggestion as discussed previously, to turn definition section into a glossary , that will evolve over time
Kind regards, Bart
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Bart Boswinkel -
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez -
Olga Cavalli