hi, I was new to the group today and that seemed to be a decsion that had already been made. But I don't understand it. Has the ASO refused to participate? Since the NRO and the ASO each have representatives, I am assuming that they are not one and the same. So perhaps there are issues of ICANN's relationship to this whole thing that they may be interested in. It does not seem reasonable to me to give up the idea of a CCWG that works on the entire ICANN aspect of the transition and that includes at least possibly, all ACSO. I tend to think there may be issues that are larger than just names among the ICANN aspects of this transition. But of course if the ASO and others have all said, no, no way, not even interested in looking at your charter, then ok. Otherwise, I would like to understand better. thanks avri