Dear All, Please find below the notes / action items from today's DT meeting. Note that the next meeting has been scheduled for Monday 21 July at 13.00 UTC (call details will be sent separately). As soon as we have the wiki page set up, we'll also post the notes as well as the other documents that were circulated there. Best regards, Marika Notes / Action Items 14/7: Jonathan to reach out to CSG to confirm representative Objective of the DT * Initial draft of charter was developed prior to establishment of coordination committee as well as work being undertaken by the parameter and protocol groups - this needs to be considered in the context of the reviewing / revising the draft * Coordination committee set up to manage / oversee the development of proposals - actual proposal development takes place at community level, such as in the foreseen CWG * Some groups may also want to provide input through different mechanisms, in addition to the CWG * Community members on coordination committee will determine how input is received / managed so through that mechanism the different groups involved will be able to determine how input is managed / gathered / provided Draft Charter * Start new draft, reflecting current reality. Focus on naming side of IANA functions as numbers and protocols side are already being addressed separately. * Check whether protocol / number groups have a charter that may serve as a model / starting point * Need to focus on setting out the work of the CWG, not actually do the work * Charter should ideally articulate that a concrete output should be produced such as a proposal for transition - which would then need to be approved by each of the participating organizations prior to submission to the coordination committee. However, recommendations for partial (provisional or incomplete) solutions may also need to be allowed (along the way) - so this should not be precluded. Charter would also need to be clear what happens with recommendations that are only adopted by one/some but not all of the participating organizations - can these be put forward (on individual title of SO/AC), or not? * Include heading on relationship with coordination committee in proposed charter * Enable requests / questions from coordination committee - consider inviting reps on the coordination committee to participate in CWG * Review which items from charter can be re-used such as administrative sections Next Steps * Who holds pen? * Next meeting (how frequently, when) - proposal is to meet weekly (same slot - Mondays at 13.00 UTC) * Objective to have charter agreed so that CWG could have its first meeting in LA during the next ICANN meeting or even sooner, if possible. Aim to finalize charter within next 30 days to be able to put forward at least a draft to the different SO/ACs to start initiating process to adopt charter and form WG. * Staff to develop draft timetable for next steps (factor in approval by chartering organizations). Also factor in any coordination committee milestone dates, if/when available. * Staff to prepare charter template - provide headings for main sections, including some of the sections from the draft template that may still be relevant (mission, scope, membership, etc.) * Next meeting scheduled for Monday 21 July at 13.00 UTC.
Thank you very much Marika. One key topic that I think needs to be in the charter for WG action is deciding how the IANA stewardship transition work will relate to the ICANN Accountability work that will be handled in a separate tract. Was this discussed in today's call before I joined? Chuck From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika Konings Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 10:18 AM To: CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org Subject: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Notes / action items from today's meeting Dear All, Please find below the notes / action items from today's DT meeting. Note that the next meeting has been scheduled for Monday 21 July at 13.00 UTC (call details will be sent separately). As soon as we have the wiki page set up, we'll also post the notes as well as the other documents that were circulated there. Best regards, Marika Notes / Action Items 14/7: Jonathan to reach out to CSG to confirm representative Objective of the DT * Initial draft of charter was developed prior to establishment of coordination committee as well as work being undertaken by the parameter and protocol groups - this needs to be considered in the context of the reviewing / revising the draft * Coordination committee set up to manage / oversee the development of proposals - actual proposal development takes place at community level, such as in the foreseen CWG * Some groups may also want to provide input through different mechanisms, in addition to the CWG * Community members on coordination committee will determine how input is received / managed so through that mechanism the different groups involved will be able to determine how input is managed / gathered / provided Draft Charter * Start new draft, reflecting current reality. Focus on naming side of IANA functions as numbers and protocols side are already being addressed separately. * Check whether protocol / number groups have a charter that may serve as a model / starting point * Need to focus on setting out the work of the CWG, not actually do the work * Charter should ideally articulate that a concrete output should be produced such as a proposal for transition - which would then need to be approved by each of the participating organizations prior to submission to the coordination committee. However, recommendations for partial (provisional or incomplete) solutions may also need to be allowed (along the way) - so this should not be precluded. Charter would also need to be clear what happens with recommendations that are only adopted by one/some but not all of the participating organizations - can these be put forward (on individual title of SO/AC), or not? * Include heading on relationship with coordination committee in proposed charter * Enable requests / questions from coordination committee - consider inviting reps on the coordination committee to participate in CWG * Review which items from charter can be re-used such as administrative sections Next Steps * Who holds pen? * Next meeting (how frequently, when) - proposal is to meet weekly (same slot - Mondays at 13.00 UTC) * Objective to have charter agreed so that CWG could have its first meeting in LA during the next ICANN meeting or even sooner, if possible. Aim to finalize charter within next 30 days to be able to put forward at least a draft to the different SO/ACs to start initiating process to adopt charter and form WG. * Staff to develop draft timetable for next steps (factor in approval by chartering organizations). Also factor in any coordination committee milestone dates, if/when available. * Staff to prepare charter template - provide headings for main sections, including some of the sections from the draft template that may still be relevant (mission, scope, membership, etc.) * Next meeting scheduled for Monday 21 July at 13.00 UTC.
Hi Chuck, This was not raised before you joined, but agree that it ought to be discussed and addressed in the Charter. The issue of dependencies will be a tricky one, especially not knowing definitively the structure of the Accountability process. Stephanie Stephanie Duchesneau Neustar, Inc. / Public Policy Manager 1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, 4th Floor, Washington, DC 20006 Office: +1.202.533.2623 Mobile: +1.703.731.2040 Fax: +1.202.533.2623 / www.neustar.biz<http://www.neustar.biz/> ________________________________ The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message. From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 1:20 PM To: Marika Konings; CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Notes / action items from today's meeting Thank you very much Marika. One key topic that I think needs to be in the charter for WG action is deciding how the IANA stewardship transition work will relate to the ICANN Accountability work that will be handled in a separate tract. Was this discussed in today's call before I joined? Chuck From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika Konings Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 10:18 AM To: CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org<mailto:CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Notes / action items from today's meeting Dear All, Please find below the notes / action items from today's DT meeting. Note that the next meeting has been scheduled for Monday 21 July at 13.00 UTC (call details will be sent separately). As soon as we have the wiki page set up, we'll also post the notes as well as the other documents that were circulated there. Best regards, Marika Notes / Action Items 14/7: Jonathan to reach out to CSG to confirm representative Objective of the DT * Initial draft of charter was developed prior to establishment of coordination committee as well as work being undertaken by the parameter and protocol groups - this needs to be considered in the context of the reviewing / revising the draft * Coordination committee set up to manage / oversee the development of proposals - actual proposal development takes place at community level, such as in the foreseen CWG * Some groups may also want to provide input through different mechanisms, in addition to the CWG * Community members on coordination committee will determine how input is received / managed so through that mechanism the different groups involved will be able to determine how input is managed / gathered / provided Draft Charter * Start new draft, reflecting current reality. Focus on naming side of IANA functions as numbers and protocols side are already being addressed separately. * Check whether protocol / number groups have a charter that may serve as a model / starting point * Need to focus on setting out the work of the CWG, not actually do the work * Charter should ideally articulate that a concrete output should be produced such as a proposal for transition - which would then need to be approved by each of the participating organizations prior to submission to the coordination committee. However, recommendations for partial (provisional or incomplete) solutions may also need to be allowed (along the way) - so this should not be precluded. Charter would also need to be clear what happens with recommendations that are only adopted by one/some but not all of the participating organizations - can these be put forward (on individual title of SO/AC), or not? * Include heading on relationship with coordination committee in proposed charter * Enable requests / questions from coordination committee - consider inviting reps on the coordination committee to participate in CWG * Review which items from charter can be re-used such as administrative sections Next Steps * Who holds pen? * Next meeting (how frequently, when) - proposal is to meet weekly (same slot - Mondays at 13.00 UTC) * Objective to have charter agreed so that CWG could have its first meeting in LA during the next ICANN meeting or even sooner, if possible. Aim to finalize charter within next 30 days to be able to put forward at least a draft to the different SO/ACs to start initiating process to adopt charter and form WG. * Staff to develop draft timetable for next steps (factor in approval by chartering organizations). Also factor in any coordination committee milestone dates, if/when available. * Staff to prepare charter template - provide headings for main sections, including some of the sections from the draft template that may still be relevant (mission, scope, membership, etc.) * Next meeting scheduled for Monday 21 July at 13.00 UTC.
I agree with Stephanie, but would add that the direction of the discussion was to narrowly focus the charter, and thus the work of the ccWG, on the interests of the naming community. I will advocate that the linkages, if any, to the accountability review be expressly provided for in the scope section of the charter. From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Duchesneau, Stephanie Sent: July-14-14 2:12 PM To: 'Gomes, Chuck'; Marika Konings; CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Notes / action items from today's meeting Hi Chuck, This was not raised before you joined, but agree that it ought to be discussed and addressed in the Charter. The issue of dependencies will be a tricky one, especially not knowing definitively the structure of the Accountability process. Stephanie Stephanie Duchesneau Neustar, Inc. / Public Policy Manager 1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, 4th Floor, Washington, DC 20006 Office: +1.202.533.2623 Mobile: +1.703.731.2040 Fax: +1.202.533.2623 / www.neustar.biz<http://www.neustar.biz/> ________________________________ The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message. From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 1:20 PM To: Marika Konings; CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org<mailto:CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Notes / action items from today's meeting Thank you very much Marika. One key topic that I think needs to be in the charter for WG action is deciding how the IANA stewardship transition work will relate to the ICANN Accountability work that will be handled in a separate tract. Was this discussed in today's call before I joined? Chuck From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika Konings Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 10:18 AM To: CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org<mailto:CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Notes / action items from today's meeting Dear All, Please find below the notes / action items from today's DT meeting. Note that the next meeting has been scheduled for Monday 21 July at 13.00 UTC (call details will be sent separately). As soon as we have the wiki page set up, we'll also post the notes as well as the other documents that were circulated there. Best regards, Marika Notes / Action Items 14/7: Jonathan to reach out to CSG to confirm representative Objective of the DT * Initial draft of charter was developed prior to establishment of coordination committee as well as work being undertaken by the parameter and protocol groups - this needs to be considered in the context of the reviewing / revising the draft * Coordination committee set up to manage / oversee the development of proposals - actual proposal development takes place at community level, such as in the foreseen CWG * Some groups may also want to provide input through different mechanisms, in addition to the CWG * Community members on coordination committee will determine how input is received / managed so through that mechanism the different groups involved will be able to determine how input is managed / gathered / provided Draft Charter * Start new draft, reflecting current reality. Focus on naming side of IANA functions as numbers and protocols side are already being addressed separately. * Check whether protocol / number groups have a charter that may serve as a model / starting point * Need to focus on setting out the work of the CWG, not actually do the work * Charter should ideally articulate that a concrete output should be produced such as a proposal for transition - which would then need to be approved by each of the participating organizations prior to submission to the coordination committee. However, recommendations for partial (provisional or incomplete) solutions may also need to be allowed (along the way) - so this should not be precluded. Charter would also need to be clear what happens with recommendations that are only adopted by one/some but not all of the participating organizations - can these be put forward (on individual title of SO/AC), or not? * Include heading on relationship with coordination committee in proposed charter * Enable requests / questions from coordination committee - consider inviting reps on the coordination committee to participate in CWG * Review which items from charter can be re-used such as administrative sections Next Steps * Who holds pen? * Next meeting (how frequently, when) - proposal is to meet weekly (same slot - Mondays at 13.00 UTC) * Objective to have charter agreed so that CWG could have its first meeting in LA during the next ICANN meeting or even sooner, if possible. Aim to finalize charter within next 30 days to be able to put forward at least a draft to the different SO/ACs to start initiating process to adopt charter and form WG. * Staff to develop draft timetable for next steps (factor in approval by chartering organizations). Also factor in any coordination committee milestone dates, if/when available. * Staff to prepare charter template - provide headings for main sections, including some of the sections from the draft template that may still be relevant (mission, scope, membership, etc.) * Next meeting scheduled for Monday 21 July at 13.00 UTC.
Hi, One of the things we may want to include as a work items for the WG is something like: - work with the ICANN groups and staff engaged in the ICANN accountability project to determine the correct milestones for dependencies [between, among] the processes. avri On 14-Jul-14 14:11, Duchesneau, Stephanie wrote:
Hi Chuck,
This was not raised before you joined, but agree that it ought to be discussed and addressed in the Charter. The issue of dependencies will be a tricky one, especially not knowing definitively the structure of the Accountability process.
Stephanie
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*From:*cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Gomes, Chuck *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2014 1:20 PM *To:* Marika Konings; CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Notes / action items from today's meeting
Thank you very much Marika.
One key topic that I think needs to be in the charter for WG action is deciding how the IANA stewardship transition work will relate to the ICANN Accountability work that will be handled in a separate tract. Was this discussed in today’s call before I joined?
Chuck
*From:*cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org <mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Marika Konings *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2014 10:18 AM *To:* CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org <mailto:CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org> *Subject:* [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Notes / action items from today's meeting
Dear All,
Please find below the notes / action items from today's DT meeting. Note that the next meeting has been scheduled for Monday 21 July at 13.00 UTC (call details will be sent separately). As soon as we have the wiki page set up, we'll also post the notes as well as the other documents that were circulated there.
Best regards,
Marika
*Notes / Action Items 14/7*:
Jonathan to reach out to CSG to confirm representative
/Objective of the DT/
* Initial draft of charter was developed prior to establishment of coordination committee as well as work being undertaken by the parameter and protocol groups - this needs to be considered in the context of the reviewing / revising the draft * Coordination committee set up to manage / oversee the development of proposals - actual proposal development takes place at community level, such as in the foreseen CWG * Some groups may also want to provide input through different mechanisms, in addition to the CWG * Community members on coordination committee will determine how input is received / managed so through that mechanism the different groups involved will be able to determine how input is managed / gathered / provided
/Draft Charter/
* Start new draft, reflecting current reality. Focus on naming side of IANA functions as numbers and protocols side are already being addressed separately. * Check whether protocol / number groups have a charter that may serve as a model / starting point * Need to focus on setting out the work of the CWG, not actually do the work * Charter should ideally articulate that a concrete output should be produced such as a proposal for transition - which would then need to be approved by each of the participating organizations prior to submission to the coordination committee. However, recommendations for partial (provisional or incomplete) solutions may also need to be allowed (along the way) - so this should not be precluded. Charter would also need to be clear what happens with recommendations that are only adopted by one/some but not all of the participating organizations - can these be put forward (on individual title of SO/AC), or not? * Include heading on relationship with coordination committee in proposed charter * Enable requests / questions from coordination committee - consider inviting reps on the coordination committee to participate in CWG * Review which items from charter can be re-used such as administrative sections
/Next Steps/
* Who holds pen? * Next meeting (how frequently, when) - proposal is to meet weekly (same slot - Mondays at 13.00 UTC) * Objective to have charter agreed so that CWG could have its first meeting in LA during the next ICANN meeting or even sooner, if possible. Aim to finalize charter within next 30 days to be able to put forward at least a draft to the different SO/ACs to start initiating process to adopt charter and form WG. * Staff to develop draft timetable for next steps (factor in approval by chartering organizations). Also factor in any coordination committee milestone dates, if/when available. * Staff to prepare charter template - provide headings for main sections, including some of the sections from the draft template that may still be relevant (mission, scope, membership, etc.) * Next meeting scheduled for Monday 21 July at 13.00 UTC.
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Duchesneau, Stephanie -
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Marika Konings