Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the CWG Framework of Operating Principles call held on Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 17:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-principles-16jun16-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXzI03ZqpsuetVibIDfcOs-2Ft0v2JJJ9Cjls2kkXNrH2a0iIb3cv-2BG-2Fu-2BfpnGLSxJLC1rNthNUjs-3D_nEX-2FaOijqgcJlSz5SkmueJu3tRbmaDiuX89gT35tStEeSHP9whdoceObpMxYsFLQddiMZpQjIv8dk6BsBGSJXH7VWN4SGLCJgbGKCk6E-2FTErjF4OKNQt65Dk9NF54IJ9kQpmDNySj7bbNz9G4dXi5BgbCZotTx8KNfyeB0z00f8KsMfETeTNKd7vy2kKI7tttQUIwid4NAhxXgT3nZYwmtgxR4ks8l-2B-2BZFfKeF1YcmfV3BQFFs0eKKwBq24-2FDpHcIn74kJXWWig359EcFjHi5YGjZzGMNzUdEWkmJwhk-2F50TIE6s8Zyh1uyoWjgRt4FXaz7W5nxR1GCcORKPopuC0EtVvnPUABLUcUEI5UvL4rXPYm7lKDIH8nvjeE4Ww35MBMWpYMnnPJXKWAFMJzjCegDVMV1itvY66cpp6TXkPCd3dUCGptg-2FWTD8VtK1qFtBAa0SOUG5ApySUy3mumSjQJNfc6G2fMJtsctoC-2Fg7Tom4XONKAv5mtydqZ7f1wdpN> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Cheryl Langdon-Orr John Berard - (Co-Chair) Becky Burr - (Co-Chair) Jim Galvin Alan Greenberg Avri Doria Apologies: Annebeth Lange David Tait (staff) ICANN staff: Mary Wong Steve Chan Bart Boswinkel Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Web page : http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/ccwg-framework.htm Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday, 16 June 2016 Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the Framework of Operating Principles Cross Community Working Group meeting on the 16 June 2016 at 17:00 UTC Terri Agnew:member wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/qAfPAQ Becky Burr:hi - still dialing in Mary Wong:It is not possible to mix up your and Becky's voices, John! Bart Boswinkel:Hi All Avri Doria:i finally found where all my email from the notifacations of these meeetings was getting lost. apologies for all the meetings i missed. Alan Greenberg:For Cheryl, 3 am... And has been a long night (and no doubt the day before) Steve Chan:Hello all Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):indeed i is a follow n mrom 2300 *yesterday evening! Mary Wong:Apologies that we didn't follow up on and include that, all. Terri Agnew:@Avri, glad to hear the missing emails are found and hopefully going forward will no longer be lost Mary Wong:@John, understood and agree Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yup Jim Galvin:looking good! Alan Greenberg:For the record, I have been travelling and have not yet reviewed this version. So I cannot speak to the orientation of my nech hairs. Alan Greenberg:neck Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I think tht should be explicet yes Becky Mary Wong:@CLO, @Becky, are you suggesting that we strengthen this language? In Section 2.0, para 1? Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes Mary I believe so Mary Wong:So, eg. "should not be a vehicle" rather than "not generally considered a vehicle"? Becky Burr:"is not the proper vehicle for formal policy development where such authority has been granted to a specific Supporting Organization." Bart Boswinkel:You can also look at page 7 section 1 Bart Boswinkel:detailed description Becky Burr:also agree language on page 7 is good Mary Wong:@Becky, I added "under the Bylaws" to your suggested language - does that work? It's in the Notes on the right side. Becky Burr:3.1. 1. yellow highlight Bart Boswinkel:yes that is correct Mary Wong:Thanks, Becky - that's exactly what this para tries to say Bart Boswinkel:or change : should not replace, and can inform and enahnce Mary Wong:3 Jim Galvin:i have a question about liaisons when we're ready to change topics. Becky Burr:@ mary, that add works for me Mary Wong:Thanks, Becky Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yes Alan we need care here as well Mary Wong:How about requiring that IF a CCWG believes public comment is NOT necessary, that this must be approved by the Chartering Organizations? Mary Wong:@Becky, presumably that type of CCWG (open ended, no anticipated final deliverable) would be less likely after this Framework is adopted. Mary Wong:@Becky, @CLO, @Alan - you have more experience with the liaison concept through the CWG/CCWG. What do you think? Alan Greenberg:Liaisons are typically from groups that are not chartering orgs Becky Burr:agree with John Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Liaisons IMO are best seen as *Formal* condute of a formalsed nature Mary Wong:@Jim - yes, that is not addressed. Avri Doria:i would think that of course they çan refuse. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):indeed Avri Jim Galvin:thanks I'm good Mary Wong:ok Mary Wong:Done, in the notes Bart Boswinkel:Depends on community Alan Greenberg:Whar page/para are we on? Bart Boswinkel:ccTLD communty alsolooks at members and non-members and diversity of ccTLD operators Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):exactly Bart Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Undersstood Mary Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yup Becky Burr:yes Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes for Helsinki Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Correct Mry Mary Wong:OK Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I have left Audio because I have another cll on atm I am still in AC audio Becky Burr:no, specified Avri Doria:yeah, normal process, but good to say, becasue when they become important things might be tense and people forget. Becky Burr:i think in practice they are always permitted, but you need to identify when in the process these are appropriate Bart Boswinkel:You are right Bart Boswinkel:and not just GNSo procedures Alan Greenberg:Leaving for another meeting now. Mary Wong:Thanks, Cheryl! Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I will need to leave this call at top of hour fully to join the next AC room Apologies Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Bye for now Becky Burr:i will Avri Doria:y Becky Burr:amen! Mary Wong:It's our pleasure - this is important and we like this CWG :) Mary Wong:We like you all, I mean! Mary Wong:Thanks, everybody! Bart Boswinkel:Bye all