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Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Principles
by Milton L Mueller Dec. 9, 2014

Dec. 9, 2014

Yes, I agree. But the principle as formulated implies that every entity involved in management must be MS, which I think is excessive. From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 5:59 PM To: Milton L Mueller; Lise Fuhr; cwg-stewardship(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Principles Milton, It is ineffective to literally manage in a multistakeholder way but it is possible to respect and follow multistakeholder developed policies in managing. Chuck From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller@syr.edu] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 5:55 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; Lise Fuhr; cwg-stewardship(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Principles I dissent from principle g by the way. I could see why oversight of IANA might be multi-stakeholder, but management need not be. -MM From: cwg-stewardship-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]<mailto:[mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]> On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 4:18 PM To: Lise Fuhr; cwg-stewardship(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Principles I made a couple more edits in item g at the end of the document. Chuck From: Gomes, Chuck Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 4:12 PM To: 'Lise Fuhr'; cwg-stewardship(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Principles I made a couple edits and suggested a third in my next to last comment. I also identified in my comments some possible action items that the CWG may need to perform as soon as possible assuming that the principles are adopted by the CWG. Chuck From: cwg-stewardship-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]<mailto:[mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]> On Behalf Of Lise Fuhr Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 8:34 AM To: cwg-stewardship(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Principles Dear All, We hereby send you a redline and a clean version of the Principles document. For the unresolved part, staff has done a table. We recommend that we focus on the outstanding issues, that are identified in the comments. We welcome any inputs on either the comments or on the redline draft. The document will be finalized on the next call. Best regards, Martin and Lise

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Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Cooperative Agreement
by Gomes, Chuck Dec. 8, 2014

Dec. 8, 2014

Guru, After I sent the message below I was given another link that has the original cooperative agreement: http://archive.icann.org/en/nsi/coopagmt-01jan93.htm . Let me provide some context. The original cooperative agreement dates back to 1993 and was between Network Solutions and the U.S. National Science Foundation (NSF). Sometime around 1998 the cooperative agreement was changed from NSF to the U.S. Department of Commerce NTIA; that probably is contained in one the first nine amendments but I haven’t found a link to them yet. Note also that Verisign acquired Network Solutions in 2000. I hope this helps a little more. Chuck From: Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 5:36 PM To: 'Guru Acharya'; 'cwg-stewardship(a)icann.org' Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Cooperative Agreement Guru, The authoritative source for the NTIA/Verisign cooperative agreement is the NTIA. That is where I go to review it: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/page/verisign-cooperative-agreement . But I note when I go there that, unless I am missing something, they give links for Amendments 10-32 but no links for Amendments 1-9 or the base/original cooperative agreement. I would suggest that the CWG co-chairs or ICANN staff supporting the CWG ask NTIA where Amendments 1-9 and the base/original cooperative agreement can be found. Chuck From: Gomes, Chuck Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 5:46 PM To: 'Guru Acharya'; cwg-stewardship(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Cooperative Agreement I do not have one Guru but I will check to see if there is one that is better than what the NTIA site contains. I agree with you that it is very difficult to use and incomplete. Chuck From: cwg-stewardship-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]<mailto:[mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]> On Behalf Of Guru Acharya Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 4:40 PM To: cwg-stewardship(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Cooperative Agreement Chuck, All, Does someone have a copy of the Cooperative Agreement between NTIA and Verisign as amended by the 32 amendments? The NTIA website separately publishes the original and the 32 amendments, which is making it difficult to piece it all together. I'm looking for the final agreement with all the amendments/changes in a single document. The current proposal published by this CWG is strikingly silent about the Cooperative Agreement. From what I understand, the Cooperative Agreement is much broader than the Root Zone Management. What aspects of the Cooperative Agreement are relevant to the IANA Transition and what aspects are not? Regards, Guru

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Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Cooperative Agreement
by Gomes, Chuck Dec. 8, 2014

Dec. 8, 2014

Guru, The authoritative source for the NTIA/Verisign cooperative agreement is the NTIA. That is where I go to review it: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/page/verisign-cooperative-agreement . But I note when I go there that, unless I am missing something, they give links for Amendments 10-32 but no links for Amendments 1-9 or the base/original cooperative agreement. I would suggest that the CWG co-chairs or ICANN staff supporting the CWG ask NTIA where Amendments 1-9 and the base/original cooperative agreement can be found. Chuck From: Gomes, Chuck Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 5:46 PM To: 'Guru Acharya'; cwg-stewardship(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Cooperative Agreement I do not have one Guru but I will check to see if there is one that is better than what the NTIA site contains. I agree with you that it is very difficult to use and incomplete. Chuck From: cwg-stewardship-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]<mailto:[mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]> On Behalf Of Guru Acharya Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 4:40 PM To: cwg-stewardship(a)icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Cooperative Agreement Chuck, All, Does someone have a copy of the Cooperative Agreement between NTIA and Verisign as amended by the 32 amendments? The NTIA website separately publishes the original and the 32 amendments, which is making it difficult to piece it all together. I'm looking for the final agreement with all the amendments/changes in a single document. The current proposal published by this CWG is strikingly silent about the Cooperative Agreement. From what I understand, the Cooperative Agreement is much broader than the Root Zone Management. What aspects of the Cooperative Agreement are relevant to the IANA Transition and what aspects are not? Regards, Guru

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Principles
by Lise Fuhr Dec. 8, 2014

Dec. 8, 2014

Dear All, We hereby send you a redline and a clean version of the Principles document. For the unresolved part, staff has done a table. We recommend that we focus on the outstanding issues, that are identified in the comments. We welcome any inputs on either the comments or on the redline draft. The document will be finalized on the next call. Best regards, Martin and Lise

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Re: [CWG-Stewardship] CWG - Public Comment summary for Saturday and Sunday December 6th and 7th
by Bernard Turcotte Dec. 8, 2014

Dec. 8, 2014

For those wondering/curious about this here is a web article that discusses this case: http://domainnamewire.com/2012/08/03/centralnic-lawsuit/ Cheers B. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > All > > December 6th > > 2 illegible (formatting issues) emails from Graham Schreiber which seem > to be about his lawsuit (see Dec. 2nd posting by same person) > > December 7th > > 2 illegible (formatting issues) emails from Graham Schreiber which seem > to be about his lawsuit (see Dec. 2nd posting by same person) > > B. >

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CWG - Public Comment summary for Saturday and Sunday December 6th and 7th
by Bernard Turcotte Dec. 8, 2014

Dec. 8, 2014

All December 6th 2 illegible (formatting issues) emails from Graham Schreiber which seem to be about his lawsuit (see Dec. 2nd posting by same person) December 7th 2 illegible (formatting issues) emails from Graham Schreiber which seem to be about his lawsuit (see Dec. 2nd posting by same person) B.

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Webinar recordings and transcripts posted
by Grace Abuhamad Dec. 8, 2014

Dec. 8, 2014

Dear all, The Webinar transcripts and recordings have been posted on the Wiki at https://community.icann.org/x/SIEHAw Best, Grace

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[Cwg-rfp5] Meeting Friday
by Grace Abuhamad Dec. 8, 2014

Dec. 8, 2014

Forwarding a message from Lise that seems to have bounced. -- Grace Dear RFP5 group and the rest of the CWG, I have asked staff to arrange a conference call for the RFP5 on Friday December 12th at 12:00 UTC (triple 12 must give us some luck). I will send out an agenda later this week. I would like the RFP5 members to respond directly to me, whether you can participate in the meeting or not. Please respond no later than Wednesday December 10th . Everyone is off course welcome to participate in the meeting. Furthermore we need a coordinator for this group, if you are interested please send an email to Grace. Best regards, Lise

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Cooperative Agreement
by Guru Acharya Dec. 7, 2014

Dec. 7, 2014

Chuck, All, Does someone have a copy of the Cooperative Agreement between NTIA and Verisign as amended by the 32 amendments? The NTIA website separately publishes the original and the 32 amendments, which is making it difficult to piece it all together. I'm looking for the final agreement with all the amendments/changes in a single document. The current proposal published by this CWG is strikingly silent about the Cooperative Agreement. >From what I understand, the Cooperative Agreement is much broader than the Root Zone Management. What aspects of the Cooperative Agreement are relevant to the IANA Transition and what aspects are not? Regards, Guru

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Week's Summary and Belated Birthday Wishes
by Grace Abuhamad Dec. 6, 2014

Dec. 6, 2014

Dear all, As you know, we have had a busy week which included posting the Draft Proposal for public comment and following up with 3 public Webinars to update the broader community about our progress to date. The Webinars went well, with approximately 50 people joining each session. A big thank you is owed to our Jonathan, Lise, and Greg for their presentations and to many of you who joined multiple Webinars to offer support and assist with answering questions in the chat. Throughout this busy week, we missed the opportunity to wish our Co-Chair a Happy Birthday. So, Jonathan, please accept the group's belated birthday wishes. Hope you were able to find some time to celebrate amidst the packed CWG schedule (and your other commitments). Happy (belated) Birthday Jonathan!

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