Seun: We can instantiate PTI with secondment employees to move forward with the transition but all PTI new employees after this need to be employees of PTI. -ed On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:15 AM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Just thinking aloud here, assuming staff of PTI are handled by secondment, what part of the CWG proposal will that go against? How will that hinder the community from exercising any of the community powers? What impact will it have in the operation of the functions?
Regards
Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 17 Jun 2016 3:06 p.m., "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
In my opinion, this is the kind of discussion that is needed. I sincerely wish we could have had it a couple months ago but it is what it is. I am looking forward to how staff responds to the issues that have been raised and encourage all of us to work collaboratively to address the issues and facilitate a timely and smooth transition.
Chuck
*From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Mueller, Milton L *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2016 9:46 AM *To:* kurt@kjpritz.com; Greg Shatan; Jonathan Robinson *Cc:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations
Chuck, Kurt
I think Kurt’s approach to the separation is a very radical undoing of the whole PTI model.
I really don’t like the way our hard-won reforms are being undone while people’s attention is occupied by other things.
Kurt says:
“On a more basic issue, I see no daylight between the loyalty to performing the IANA function and working toward the ICANN mission. They were inextricably bound up at the formation of ICANN. Every organization has some tension between the executive/Board and the operating entities underneath. But I see the mission of PTI and ICANN more aligned than any other combination of PTI and some other organization.”
This comment makes me wonder where Kurt was during the extensive discussion and debate over the need to create PTI. He is also wrong about ICANN’s mission, which was redefined precisely to make it clear that the IFO is a contracted function and not a core part of ICANN’s mission.
We have agreed as part of the transition that it is important to separate the policy making entity from the implementation entity. Some of us argued that IANA functions should be divested from ICANN altogether. ICANN itself of course wanted to retain a perpetual monopoly on IANA functions. The PTI arrangement was a compromise between those two positions. It is unseemly to try to unwind that compromise at this juncture.
By undermining the separation of ICANN and IANA in this way, we are also playing into the hands of those in the U.S. Congress who would call for a delay (which would probably be permanent) in the implementation of the transition. This is true because you are increasing the level of dissatisfaction with the proposed reforms and providing another excuse for people to claim that ICANN cannot be trusted to become independent.
--MM
*From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [ mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *kurt@kjpritz.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:15 AM *To:* Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com>; Jonathan Robinson < jrobinson@afilias.info> *Cc:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations
Hi Everyone:
I thought that Greg's comments to the ICANN Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations merited a response focusing some operational aspects of the plan.
To make it easier to read, I pasted Greg's comments into the document itself in italics and then followed those comments with my own.
Thanks for taking the time to read these. i hope they are helpful to your thinking.
Regards,
Kurt
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Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations From: "Greg Shatan" <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> Date: 6/13/16 1:10 pm To: "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@afilias.info> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org>
All,
My thoughts on the rationale explanation are on the attached document as marginal comments.
Greg Shatan
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Jonathan Robinson < jrobinson@afilias.info> wrote:
All,
FYI.
Please note We did not have an IOTF call today so have not yet had the opportunity to discuss this item.
Jonathan
*From:* Yuko Green [mailto:yuko.green@icann.org] *Sent:* 10 June 2016 18:05 *To:* iotf@icann.org *Subject:* [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations
Dear members of the IOTF,
Attached, please find the rationale for PTI staffing recommendations we have made in the PTI Implementation Approach document. We look forward to hearing any feedback you may have.
Regards,
*Yuko Green*
Strategic Programs Manager
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