Jonathan and Lise, I would like to volunteer to be part of this group. Greg On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
I agree with Avri regarding the composition of the 'chair's group'. I think having a few IPR experts in the small group is important.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:58 PM To: cwg-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: CWG/CRISP/IANAPLAN Coordination
Hi,
By chairs' group. i meant one that they were responsible for and were putting together as they thought best. I did not mean it would only contain chairs.
As for consensus, I hear more and more people saying things like, "while I would prefer ICANN hold on to the IPR and domain names as part of its stewardship role, as long as everything is worked out, I am willing to live with a trust solution since that is what Numbers wants and is what was put in the ICG plan as a default"
I think if the chairs group works it out and can answer the questions being asked to the satisfaction of the group, we will find consensus.
avri
On 11-Aug-15 15:07, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
Hello Avri,
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org <mailto:avri@acm.org>> wrote:
I look forward to updates on the discussions that will be held in the chairs' group.
If its indeed now "chairs' group" then i will add my +1. The understanding from the last CWG call was that a "small group" of selected person across the operational communities will be formed to discuss the TM(the group as i understand it may or may not contain the chairs).
Overall, without a direction from the CWG i doubt this meeting would help the CWG achieve a consensus view on the TM options. I would however be glad to see this cross- operational community collaboration focus on how to refine the "texts/wordings" that ensure IETF Trust operates the TM in a manner acceptable by the operational communities.
Good luck.
+1
Regards
avri
On 11-Aug-15 04:53, Jonathan Robinson wrote: > All, > > Please see below for message received yesterday from Izumi Okutani & Nurani Nimpuno (respectively Chair and Vice-Chair of The CRISP Team) > > Jonathan > > ----- > Dear Jonathan, Lise and CWG members, > > > The CRISP Team have started sharing observations on the legal input from Sidely. > Once we have completed summarising our obervation, we would like to share it with the CWG, together with any general observation on IPR on the IANA trademark and iana.org <http://iana.org> domain. > > We acknowledge the suggested way forward discussed at the CWG call on Thursday 6 August, which was shared by Jonathan and Lise. > We will discuss this suggestion as well and will get back to you through Jonathan and Lise if we have any feedback. > > Izumi Okutani & Nurani Nimpuno > Chair, Vice-Chair, The CRISP Team > ----- > > > On 2015/08/07 16:27, Jonathan Robinson wrote: >> All, >> >> Following up from the latest email in this thread. I am able to report that the CWG received its legal input on the IPR on Wednesday this week. >> In addition, yesterday (Thursday 6th August) , at our scheduled CWG meeting, we had the lawyers present the work and we ran a Q&A / discussion. >> Please do consider listening to the audio recording of the meeting and / or reading the transcript as you see fit. >> >> In brief, the outcome was that the CWG requested the following of the chairs: >> >> 1. That we reach out to this group and communicate the current situation. >> 2. That we convene a meeting to discuss and consider the options for a way forward as soon as possible. >> 3. That we consider forming a small group, suggested to contain the group on this email plus possibly some additions (say up to 2 per proposing group) and including a representative from ICANN. >> This small group would seek to reconcile the IPR issue across the CWG / CRISP / IANAPLAN and then put this reconciled position back to the Names, Numbers & Protocol communities. >> My personal opinion is that this should be all completed by the close of the ICG public comment period such that we can communicate it to the ICG directly. >> >> We have attached the legal input from Sidley Austin and look forward to your response as soon as possible, primarily to a request to meet to discuss this. Grace will send out a Doodle Poll shortly. >> Hopefully we can discuss the detail in a meeting once you have had a chance to review the input. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> Jonathan & Lise >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > CWG-Stewardship mailing list > CWG-Stewardship@icann.org <mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org> > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship > >
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