Very good question in my opinion Greg. The President/CEO/Managing Director person could attend Board meetings at the pleasure of the Board even if he/she was not Board member; in fact, I think that is common practice by Boards. Chuck From: Greg Shatan [mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 6:05 PM To: Gomes, Chuck Cc: Seun Ojedeji; avri; cwg-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [client com] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing Director In many ways, it would be simpler if PTI did not have the President/CEO/Managing Director person on its Board, and instead had 3 ICANN employees on the PTI Board. What are the advantages of having this person on the PTI Board? Greg On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> wrote: My concern related to the fact that we are dealing with a very small board. Having a PTI employee on a board of 5 is very different than doing so on a larger board. Chuck From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Seun Ojedeji Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 5:29 PM To: avri Cc: cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [client com] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing Director RIRs (sure of AFRINIC) does have a voting CEO on it's board. Regards sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 15 Jun 2015 21:20, "Avri Doria" <avri@acm.org<mailto:avri@acm.org>> wrote: Hi, A clarification, saying ex official means saying it is because of another role held. Do you also mean that this should be a non voting seat? I think you do, but want to make sure. I would note that ICANN has a voting CEO on its Board. Does ISOC? How about the RIRs? Just curious. avri On 15-Jun-15 16:07, James Gannon wrote:
Greg,
With regards to questions 3, 4 and 6:
As a matter of good governance practice I would have serious concerns about an employee of PTI sitting on the board of PTI with the exception of the CEO ex officio.
I would appreciate input from others but certainly in Ireland and France where I’ve sat on boards it’s would not be considered an acceptable practice. And I agree I haven’t seen this issue discussed and any advice on best practice given to date.
-James
*From:*cwg-client-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-client-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-client-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-client-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shatan *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2015 8:15 PM *To:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>; Client *Subject:* [client com] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing Director
All:
In the course of discussing the composition of the "inside" (controlled) PTI Board, I believe we have stated that three seats would be appointed by ICANN, with two being unspecified ICANN employees and one being the "IANA Managing Director." I've been asked to clarify who this IANA Managing Director is (since this title does not currently exist). Specifically:
1. Will the IANA Managing Director be an employee of ICANN or of PTI?
2. Is this intended to be the person in the role currently held by Elise Gerich (currently a VP of ICANN for IANA and Technical Operations)?
3. If this person is an employee of PTI and not ICANN, does that still qualify for purposes of making it an inside board (keeping in mind that ICANN does not "own" PTI, and that the only reason this person is controlled by ICANN is because ICANN controls PTI (which creates a circularity of reasoning))?
4. Can this person be an employee of ICANN _and_ PTI (at least so that question 3 is resolved)?
Some next level questions:
5. Why are we calling this person a "Managing Director," which is not commonly used in US non-profit corporations to my experience? (The typical senior board-appointed offices are President, Vice President, Secretary and Treasurer. Managing Director seems to show up primarily in investment banks and other financial services entities. If this person is intended to be at the helm of PTI, we should use the term President.)
6. How will the board handle matters related to this person (compensation, etc.)? If she recuses herself, there will only be 4 directors voting.
I look forward to clarification and apologize if this is clear somewhere and I missed it.
Greg
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