Hi, I agree. Forcing this group to go through the DIDP is not the full transparency and cooperation that we should expect in this process. avri On 22-Dec-14 22:16, Alan Greenberg wrote:
I must say that I find this level of bureaucracy totally unreasonable. This is not someone from outside the organization trying to get ICANN to reveal some secret, it is a properly chartered ICANN CWG trying to understand its task mandated by the Board.
Alan
At 22/12/2014 09:49 PM, Grace Abuhamad wrote:
Hi James, I understand that there is a tight timeline, but the person seeking the information should submit the request, not staff. --Grace
From: James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net <mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net> > Date: Monday, December 22, 2014 4:08 AM To: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org> >, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com <mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>>, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> >, Guru Acharya <gurcharya@gmail.com <mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com>>, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org <mailto:avri@acm.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Composition of MRT
Hi Grace,
Given the tight timelines involved here could a member of staff manage/expedite a response on behalf of the chairs/CWG?
*From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Grace Abuhamad *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 5:51 AM *To:* Gomes, Chuck; Alan Greenberg; Guru Acharya; Avri Doria *Cc:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Composition of MRT
Dear all, For a more fulsome response to your questions on obtaining the Contingency Plan, please submit a request through ICANN’s Documentary Information Disclosure Policy, available at https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/didp-2012-02-25-en <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/didp-2012-02-25-en>.
*From: *<Gomes>, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com <mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> *Date: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:55 AM *To: *Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> >, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org> >, Guru Acharya <gurcharya@gmail.com <mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com>>, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org <mailto:avri@acm.org>> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> *Subject: *RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Composition of MRT
At a minimum, we should ask what needs to be done to allow some review of it.
Chuck
*From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Alan Greenberg *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 12:08 AM *To:* Grace Abuhamad; Guru Acharya; Avri Doria *Cc:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Composition of MRT
I believe that any such document must be shared with the CWG, if only with the Co-Chairs or some specific sub-set of the CWG who of course must sign an appropriate confidentiality document and perhaps get clearance for what they share (with an appeal process in the case of a disagreement).
Alan
At 17/12/2014 10:46 PM, Grace Abuhamad wrote:
Hi all,
We looked into this and noted that the Continuity & Contingency Plan is confidential and cannot be distributed.
Notes, transcripts, and recordings for RFP4 call are available here: https://community.icann.org/x/MYcQAw <https://community.icann.org/x/MYcQAw> * *Best, Grace
From: Guru Acharya <gurcharya@gmail.com <mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com>> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:05 AM To: Avri Doria <avri@acm.org <mailto:avri@acm.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Composition of MRT
Hi Avri,
This was an action item for the staff from the call on 25th November. I believe they have already put in a request for the document with the IANA staff. Maybe Grace or Marika can update us on the request.
"*ACTION staff : Ask IANA staff to share details on 7.3 that might be available for the public and/or online*" On 17 Dec 2014 17:29, "Avri Doria" <avri@acm.org <mailto:avri@acm.org>> wrote: Hi, Is that 'transition to a "successor contractor" plan' available to the CWG? avri On 17-Dec-14 05:26, Matthew Shears wrote:
Alan Section C.7 in the current contract addresses issues of continuity of operations - particularly C.7.3, according to which ICANN should have a transition to a "successor contractor" plan in place at the moment Matthew On 12/17/2014 3:38 AM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
As someone whose ICANN 'job" is supporting/defending the needs of Internet users, I will point out that security and stability of the IANA functions is of paramount importance for the ALAC as well. I look forward to the seeing how that can be assured in a potentially disruptive switch of the IANA operator where it may be that there is no continuity of either staff or systems. Alan At 15/12/2014 03:16 PM, Donna Austin wrote:
All I largely agree with Christopher. I think we are creating complexity where it does not necessarily need to be, but as we are here I want to reiterate a few comments I made on the RFP 3 call earlier today, and these comments come from a gTLD registry operator perspective: · Operational stability and reliability of the IANA service is imperative to the business operations of registry operators and as such this should be a critical consideration in any discussions.
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