On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
Sorry if its not IANA functions then what else is there to transition?
*[Chuck Gomes] Note ICANN’s mission:*
....as if those are exclusive of the functions; its like saying united states is exclusive to California ;-)
*“*1. Coordinates the allocation and assignment of the three sets of unique identifiers for the Internet, which are
a. Domain names (forming a system referred to as "DNS");
b. Internet protocol ("IP") addresses and autonomous system ("AS") numbers; and
c. Protocol port and parameter numbers.
2. Coordinates the operation and evolution of the DNS root name server system.
3. Coordinates policy development reasonably and appropriately related to these technical functions.*”*
*There is much more than IANA services here. If not, then ICANN is way too big.*
4. They disagree with the formation of a separate contracting entity but they fail to address the fact that the possibility of separating the IANA functions from ICANN was one of the key accountability mechanisms that NTIA provided that impacted not just the IANA services but all of ICANN accountability.
Again if i may ask, could you tell me how else NTIA would have handled oversight apart from contracting? just like the RIR and IETF communities, is there any other way ICANN could operate their related functions without an agreement(SLA)? because these organisations are external and independent of ICANN. So IMO if we really want to continue contracting, then we need another organisation like NTIA (in its full independent of the IANA operator) to get the job done effectively. However, because this shoe is now to be worn by "multistakeholder" then it just makes practical sense to integrate oversight (accountability) into the existing organisation. Someone wrote a blog and defined a bylaw (paraphrased) as the document that indicate how an organisation operate while a contract is the one that tells how an organisation *should *execute a specific set of tasks. However the person failed to indicate that any entity that would exercise the latter would exhibit absolute control both in resource and independence from the operator. In a situation where that is not possible, the former becomes a realistic target solution to concentrate on.
There has been questions/comments about how contract co / MRT(in its current overreaching responsibilities) will be accountable and i have seen some response still point to the bylaw of the contract co as a possible avenue to restrict things. Why then do we find it difficult to have such thinking on the ICANN bylaw? someone said ICANN bylaw can be changed by the board, and how about contract co bylaw? The earlier we face the reality of multiple loop holes we are about to create (in addition to existing ones) with the current CWG proposal the better for us all in this process.*[Chuck Gomes] *\
*[Chuck Gomes] You missed my point Seun. The option of separating IANA from ICANN provided important accountability. If that option goes away, so does the accountability with it.*
Maybe you missed mine as well....but i am learning to control my mail trail lately so i won't try again. May see you offlist though ;) Thanks Cheers!
That said, I appreciate the fact that the Board submitted these comments and I think we should take them into consideration as we review and evaluate all of the public comments.
+1
Thanks
Chuck
*From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Crocker *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 1:58 PM *To:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org *Cc:* Stephen D. Crocker *Subject:* [CWG-Stewardship] Fwd: ICANN Board Comments on Cross Community Working Group (CWG) Draft Transition Proposal for Naming Related Functions
Folks,
The ICANN Board has just submitted the attached public comment.
Thanks,
Steve Crocker
for the ICANN Board of Directors
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