+1 I have never understood - other than this malignant propensity to obfuscate or as we say in my corner of the world 'sell a 6 for a 9' - why, despite the plain facts, there is been so much invested in denial! -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller@syr.edu> wrote:
Martin, in ccTLD land ICANN may not look like a regulator but in gTLD land here is what it does:
· impose dispute resolution rules on every gTLD registrant in the world
· decides on the supply of a resource (TLDs),
· accredits registrars,
· fixes or has the ability to fix the price for registries’ wholesale prices
· establishes requirements, terms and conditions for the registry-registrar relationship
· requires the use of certain technologies (e.g., DNSSEC)
I could go on…
Regulators can run things but whether they do or not, ICANN is a regulator/policy maker.
*From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Martin Boyle *Sent:* Friday, February 20, 2015 1:45 PM *To:* Christopher Wilkinson; cwg-stewardship@icann.org Stewardship
*Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] A liaison from the Board to CWG
Definitely +1 to this idea, Lise.
And in response to Christopher, I heard Strickling refer to ICANN as one of the stakeholders. I’m not sure about ICANN as regulator and IANA functions operator – regulators don’t really run stuff, do they? It might be a regulator for the gTLD (registry and registrar) operations, but I’d like to understand why you’d think that this also applied to the IANA functions operation.
Thanks
Martin
*From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [ mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Christopher Wilkinson *Sent:* 20 February 2015 15:17 *To:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org Stewardship *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] A liaison from the Board to CWG
Okay, +1 CW
PS: However, I do not see the ICANN Board as a 'stakeholder' in its own right.
Rather, the ICANN Board is the Regulator holding the Ring among all the Stakeholders.
That is why the composition of the Board, the way it is appointed and its accountability to the Community, including Governments, is so important, going forward.
On 20 Feb 2015, at 12:15, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Lise,
This is a welcome idea and i am in support of it.
Thanks for providing prior notice
Cheers!
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Lise Fuhr <lise.fuhr@difo.dk> wrote:
Dear All,
During the meeting in Singapore the co-chairs have picked up that ICANN Board is an important stakeholder for this groups as well. We have noticed that there have been involvement from the Board in the CWG work during calls and during the actual meetings in Singapore. Because of this involvement, the fact that the board is a stakeholder and in order to ensure a continuously and open dialogue with the CWG, we find that having a liaison from the board could be helpful. Not that the liaison will have a special status within the group but serve as a link between the CWG and the ICANN board, in line with how the CCWG has a liaison from ICANN Board.
Jonathan and I intend to approach the board regarding this in the beginning of next week.
Best regards,
Jonathan and Lise
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