First version of final report
Dear all, After successful F2F meeting in Istanbul, I am pleased to present You first version of final report. It was done by Sarmad and me (special thanks to Sarmad), following the explanations of Integration Panel. As we agreed in Istanbul, we need to polish this document on the list and make final version together. About doc: First of all, for all Cyrillic code points which are red in main table or in table obsolete, we need to find proper proof that someone is using those. Link for the usage on the Internet, whatever You have, please send to the list in order to save those code points. Also, the list of homoglyphs is needed to be built (point 6 of the text). Check Your names and correct if I added something wrong (point 8 of the text) Please, send me references for point 9. I don't think there is a need to ask for Apostrophe. Please, send me the formal mail. If You have any other question or comment, please send me or sent them to the list. Further steps> After finishing this document, we are near the finish of our task. Everything is upon You right now, and finally on answers from Integration Panel. According to those opinions, we should continue our work. Again, special personal gratitude to all people being in Istanbul, also for all ICANN people who make this F2F meeting possible. Regards, Dušan --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Dear All, Please find the response of the Integration Panel regarding the query raised by the Cyrillic GP members in the face to face meeting: ----- We have been appraised that the Cyrillic GP had the following question for the IP: should code points be which are not homoglyphs in the lower case but are homoglyphs in the upper case be included in the cross-script variant analysis? Our reply is that the decision for defining the proposed set of cross-script homoglyphs is the responsibility of the GP. Independent of which set the GP deems to be appropriate for safeguarding the security of the DNS and the Root Zone, it should be backed by a careful rationale and explanation of why the GP deems that the appropriate choice. Note: the IP, at this point, does not require that upper case homoglyphs are included. Integration Panel ------ Regards, Sarmad From: cyrillicgp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cyrillicgp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Dusan Stojicevic Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:50 AM To: cyrillicgp@icann.org Subject: [Cyrillicgp] First version of final report Dear all, After successful F2F meeting in Istanbul, I am pleased to present You first version of final report. It was done by Sarmad and me (special thanks to Sarmad), following the explanations of Integration Panel. As we agreed in Istanbul, we need to polish this document on the list and make final version together. About doc: First of all, for all Cyrillic code points which are red in main table or in table obsolete, we need to find proper proof that someone is using those. Link for the usage on the Internet, whatever You have, please send to the list in order to save those code points. Also, the list of homoglyphs is needed to be built (point 6 of the text). Check Your names and correct if I added something wrong (point 8 of the text) Please, send me references for point 9. I don't think there is a need to ask for Apostrophe. Please, send me the formal mail. If You have any other question or comment, please send me or sent them to the list. Further steps> After finishing this document, we are near the finish of our task. Everything is upon You right now, and finally on answers from Integration Panel. According to those opinions, we should continue our work. Again, special personal gratitude to all people being in Istanbul, also for all ICANN people who make this F2F meeting possible. Regards, Dušan _____ <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avast.com_sig-2Dem ail-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dlink-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dsig-2Dem ail-26utm-5Fcontent-3Demailclient&d=DgMFBA&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6s Jms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=XAAzht30lAN4O8W VHrCAGWlxKoryVt1Ig1Wg1OoGics&s=uef4-XxQ5pRLfl9L-kLyOcI27tr8X2kBL93gwvq9rEI&e => [avast.com] This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com[avast.com] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avast.com_sig-2Dem ail-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dlink-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dsig-2Dem ail-26utm-5Fcontent-3Demailclient&d=DgMFBA&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6s Jms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=XAAzht30lAN4O8W VHrCAGWlxKoryVt1Ig1Wg1OoGics&s=uef4-XxQ5pRLfl9L-kLyOcI27tr8X2kBL93gwvq9rEI&e =>
Dear All, I have just 2 comments. The file is attached. On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Dear all,
After successful F2F meeting in Istanbul, I am pleased to present You first version of final report.
It was done by Sarmad and me (special thanks to Sarmad), following the explanations of Integration Panel.
As we agreed in Istanbul, we need to polish this document on the list and make final version together.
About doc:
First of all, for all Cyrillic code points which are red in main table or in table obsolete, we need to find proper proof that someone is using those.
Link for the usage on the Internet, whatever You have, please send to the list in order to save those code points.
Also, the list of homoglyphs is needed to be built (point 6 of the text).
Check Your names and correct if I added something wrong (point 8 of the text)
Please, send me references for point 9.
I don’t think there is a need to ask for Apostrophe… Please, send me the formal mail.
If You have any other question or comment, please send me or sent them to the list.
Further steps>
After finishing this document, we are near the finish of our task.
Everything is upon You right now, and finally on answers from Integration Panel.
According to those opinions, we should continue our work.
Again, special personal gratitude to all people being in Istanbul, also for all ICANN people who make this F2F meeting possible.
Regards,
Dušan
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Thank You Dima! Dear all, Again, please, look at this proposal. If You don’t send ANY proof for red code points about actual usage, they must be obsolete. DEADLINE for all comments is 15th of December. FINAL PROPOSAL will be sent to IP on 20th of December. To be more convenient to You, extracted list of problematic code points is below> 33 0450 ѐ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IE WITH GRAVE Stressed sign 46 045D ѝ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER I WITH GRAVE Historical sign 70 04C2 ӂ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ZHE WITH BREVE Gagauz Gagauz 5 <http://www.omniglot.com/writing/gagauz.htm> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/gagauz.htm 71 04CC ӌ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER KHAKASSIAN CHE Khakas Khakas 5 <http://www.omniglot.com/writing/khakas.htm> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/khakas.htm 72 04CF ӏ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER PALOCHKA Khakas Khakas 5 <http://www.omniglot.com/writing/khakas.htm> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/khakas.htm 79 04DD ӝ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ZHE WITH DIAERESIS Udmurt Udmurt 5 <http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm 80 04DF Ӟ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ZE WITH DIAERESIS Udmurt Udmurt 5 <http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm 83 04E5 Ӥ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER I WITH DIAERESIS Udmurt Udmurt 5 http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm 91 04F5 Ӵ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER CHE WITH DIAERESIS Udmurt Udmurt 5 <http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm For all those letters we need solid proof that they are used in real life (web site content, scan of book, newspapers or anything printed,…)… PLEASE, contribute on this. Also, look at doc itself, made a comments, so we can finish the job. Regards, Dusan From: Dmitry Belyavsky [mailto:beldmit@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 4:15 PM To: Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> Cc: cyrillicgp@icann.org Subject: Re: [Cyrillicgp] First version of final report Dear All, I have just 2 comments. The file is attached. On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs <mailto:dusan@dukes.in.rs> > wrote: Dear all, After successful F2F meeting in Istanbul, I am pleased to present You first version of final report. It was done by Sarmad and me (special thanks to Sarmad), following the explanations of Integration Panel. As we agreed in Istanbul, we need to polish this document on the list and make final version together. About doc: First of all, for all Cyrillic code points which are red in main table or in table obsolete, we need to find proper proof that someone is using those. Link for the usage on the Internet, whatever You have, please send to the list in order to save those code points. Also, the list of homoglyphs is needed to be built (point 6 of the text). Check Your names and correct if I added something wrong (point 8 of the text) Please, send me references for point 9. I don’t think there is a need to ask for Apostrophe… Please, send me the formal mail. If You have any other question or comment, please send me or sent them to the list. Further steps> After finishing this document, we are near the finish of our task. Everything is upon You right now, and finally on answers from Integration Panel. According to those opinions, we should continue our work. Again, special personal gratitude to all people being in Istanbul, also for all ICANN people who make this F2F meeting possible. Regards, Dušan _____ <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaig...> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaig...> _______________________________________________ Cyrillicgp mailing list Cyrillicgp@icann.org <mailto:Cyrillicgp@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cyrillicgp -- SY, Dmitry Belyavsky --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Dear Dusan, According to alphabet at page https://udm.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%83%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD_%D... (Udmurt) the Udmurt language contains all the interested letters. The Khakas Wikipedia is absent. According to https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%... , the letter Palochka is absent in Khakas. According to the Russian Wiki, the current alphabet for Gagauz language is not Cyrillic at all from 1996. On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Thank You Dima!
Dear all,
Again, please, look at this proposal.
If You don’t send ANY proof for red code points about actual usage, they must be obsolete.
*DEADLINE for all comments is 15th of December. *
*FINAL PROPOSAL will be sent to IP on 20th of December.*
To be more convenient to You, extracted list of problematic code points is below>
33
*0450*
*ѐ*
*CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IE WITH GRAVE*
*Stressed sign*
46
*045D*
*ѝ*
*CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER I WITH GRAVE*
*Historical sign*
70
*04C2*
*ӂ*
*CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ZHE WITH BREVE*
*Gagauz*
*Gagauz 5*
*http://www.omniglot.com/writing/gagauz.htm <http://www.omniglot.com/writing/gagauz.htm>*
71
04CC
ӌ
CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER KHAKASSIAN CHE
Khakas
Khakas 5
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/khakas.htm
72
04CF
ӏ
CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER PALOCHKA
Khakas
Khakas 5
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/khakas.htm
79
*04DD*
*ӝ*
*CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ZHE WITH DIAERESIS*
*Udmurt*
*Udmurt 5*
*http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm <http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm>*
80
04DF
Ӟ
CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ZE WITH DIAERESIS
Udmurt
Udmurt 5
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm
83
*04E5*
*Ӥ*
*CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER I WITH DIAERESIS*
*Udmurt*
*Udmurt 5*
*http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm <http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm>*
91
*04F5*
*Ӵ*
*CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER CHE WITH DIAERESIS*
*Udmurt*
*Udmurt 5*
*http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm <http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm>*
For all those letters we need solid proof that they are used in real life (web site content, scan of book, newspapers or anything printed,…)…
PLEASE, contribute on this.
Also, look at doc itself, made a comments, so we can finish the job.
Regards,
Dusan
*From:* Dmitry Belyavsky [mailto:beldmit@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 5, 2016 4:15 PM *To:* Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> *Cc:* cyrillicgp@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Cyrillicgp] First version of final report
Dear All,
I have just 2 comments. The file is attached.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Dear all,
After successful F2F meeting in Istanbul, I am pleased to present You first version of final report.
It was done by Sarmad and me (special thanks to Sarmad), following the explanations of Integration Panel.
As we agreed in Istanbul, we need to polish this document on the list and make final version together.
About doc:
First of all, for all Cyrillic code points which are red in main table or in table obsolete, we need to find proper proof that someone is using those.
Link for the usage on the Internet, whatever You have, please send to the list in order to save those code points.
Also, the list of homoglyphs is needed to be built (point 6 of the text).
Check Your names and correct if I added something wrong (point 8 of the text)
Please, send me references for point 9.
I don’t think there is a need to ask for Apostrophe… Please, send me the formal mail.
If You have any other question or comment, please send me or sent them to the list.
Further steps>
After finishing this document, we are near the finish of our task.
Everything is upon You right now, and finally on answers from Integration Panel.
According to those opinions, we should continue our work.
Again, special personal gratitude to all people being in Istanbul, also for all ICANN people who make this F2F meeting possible.
Regards,
Dušan
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So the only problematic ones are two black and three red below? PS December 20th - you want us to be approved in 2016, right?
On 6 груд. 2016 р., at 14:34, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Thank You Dima!
Dear all,
Again, please, look at this proposal. If You don’t send ANY proof for red code points about actual usage, they must be obsolete. DEADLINE for all comments is 15th of December. FINAL PROPOSAL will be sent to IP on 20th of December.
To be more convenient to You, extracted list of problematic code points is below> 33 0450 ѐ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IE WITH GRAVE Stressed sign
46 045D ѝ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER I WITH GRAVE Historical sign
70 04C2 ӂ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ZHE WITH BREVE Gagauz Gagauz 5 http://www.omniglot.com/writing/gagauz.htm 71 04CC ӌ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER KHAKASSIAN CHE Khakas Khakas 5 http://www.omniglot.com/writing/khakas.htm 72 04CF ӏ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER PALOCHKA Khakas Khakas 5 http://www.omniglot.com/writing/khakas.htm
79 04DD ӝ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ZHE WITH DIAERESIS Udmurt Udmurt 5 http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm 80 04DF Ӟ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ZE WITH DIAERESIS Udmurt Udmurt 5 http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm
83 04E5 Ӥ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER I WITH DIAERESIS Udmurt Udmurt 5 http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm
91 04F5 Ӵ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER CHE WITH DIAERESIS Udmurt Udmurt 5 http://www.omniglot.com/writing/udmurt.htm
For all those letters we need solid proof that they are used in real life (web site content, scan of book, newspapers or anything printed,…)… PLEASE, contribute on this. Also, look at doc itself, made a comments, so we can finish the job.
Regards, Dusan
From: Dmitry Belyavsky [mailto:beldmit@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 4:15 PM To: Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> Cc: cyrillicgp@icann.org Subject: Re: [Cyrillicgp] First version of final report
Dear All,
I have just 2 comments. The file is attached.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote: Dear all,
After successful F2F meeting in Istanbul, I am pleased to present You first version of final report. It was done by Sarmad and me (special thanks to Sarmad), following the explanations of Integration Panel. As we agreed in Istanbul, we need to polish this document on the list and make final version together.
About doc: First of all, for all Cyrillic code points which are red in main table or in table obsolete, we need to find proper proof that someone is using those. Link for the usage on the Internet, whatever You have, please send to the list in order to save those code points. Also, the list of homoglyphs is needed to be built (point 6 of the text). Check Your names and correct if I added something wrong (point 8 of the text) Please, send me references for point 9. I don’t think there is a need to ask for Apostrophe… Please, send me the formal mail. If You have any other question or comment, please send me or sent them to the list.
Further steps> After finishing this document, we are near the finish of our task. Everything is upon You right now, and finally on answers from Integration Panel. According to those opinions, we should continue our work.
Again, special personal gratitude to all people being in Istanbul, also for all ICANN people who make this F2F meeting possible.
Regards, Dušan
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Dmitry Belyavsky -
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Dusan Stojicevic -
Sarmad Hussain